John, in addition to the NID 10 I recently sold to a local friend in the sales forum, I had a Spanish 10 sxs 3.5" and the Ithaca Mag 10 auto like your friend. Loaded, it weighed 12.75 lbs. I killed my first grown gobbler with it. In the past 40 years, I have not only grown older, but shorter and wider, and have no desire to tote a big double in the woods. That's why I now carry the lethal pipsqueaks. Gil