and then there are light weight slip on leather pads...

https://www.orvis.com/leather-recoi...4577541788648911&utm_content=Hunting

they are handy for early season use, when it is warm and one can be comfortable wearing just a tee shirt and safety vest...later on, when it gets cold and one wears more clothing, then, the slip on pad is put away until next fall...grouse guns are about length of pull, weight, balance and magic...

Last edited by ed good; 08/05/22 08:53 PM.

keep it simple and keep it safe...