This continues to be an interesting convo. I will admit, I dont know Jack or Jill about steel composition, but it's interesting reading.

I guess I still want to go back to my last rhetorical question, which Keith already took the time to address.

"If one shoots in-spec loads, doesn't have an obstruction, cleans and cares for their 20ga Flues...should they have a rational belief that their gun has any higher possibility of failure than any other make/design of that day shooting the same ammo?"

If yes, the design is a failure. If no, then what are we harping on?

And possibly just as important...are there even ample enough examples of this, or other makes failing, for us to make a reasoned determination? Or separate out the human error (hot loads, obstrictions, etc) instances?

NDG