Got out to the range yesterday and one of the two smokeless loads I had picked from the ladder test put 7 shots at 100 yards into a little over 1.5 inches, so a good start there. I also shot ladder tests with black powder and the 480 and 535 grain bullets. I have to say that touching off a 535 grain bullet and 86 grains of black gets you attention in the 8 pound 9 3/4 ounce rifle!