Re new guns vs old: While some guys rave about the CSMC Model 21's they've bought, I've read comments from a couple guys--one of whom I know as an experienced shotgunner who isn't inclined to whine about minor problems--that theirs have been money pits.

And I'm pretty sure I commented here about my attempts to buy one of the Savage Fox A Grades (basically an RBL dressed up a bit to look like a Fox). Also a CSMC product. I eventually gave up. I now own a REAL Fox A Grade 16ga with brand new barrels (left over when Savage stopped making them.) Restocked, etc. That's a lot of new stuff on an old gun, but the action is still original Fox and I love it.