I never shoot 9’s at upland birds. I hunt primarily bobwhite quail and ruffed grouse over pointing dogs and prefer 7 1/2 shot, almost never shooting 8’s. I might use 9’s on a dedicated woodcock hunt, but I’m usually sorta bummed when my dogs point a timberdoodle instead of a grouse. Like the .410 (except for dove), #9 shot is a game crippler imho.

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