Now Brother Stan, you know very well the comment above was intended tongue-in-cheek; although I was indeed thinking of you when I mentioned incredible marksmanship, as I believe you could get a limit of doves armed only with rocks. I shot many doves with a couple of 28 gauge O/U guns back in the day, but the only time I tried dove shooting with a .410 I was humbled to the point of humiliation; the only bird I got that day I had to chase down and ring its neck.