I really don’t know. He thought it looked like a Monte Kennedy, but there was no signature in the barrel channel, so it wasn’t a Kennedy. This gun was thirty years old at that point, Tom reminisced about that time period, telling me about he Apex barrel guy who made wonderful barrels but was an alcoholic and unreliable. He told me he worked with lots of different stock makers at the time, he mentioned Al Beisen, Kennedy, Jerry Fisher even Dennis Olson.