Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted By: BrentD
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted By: BrentD
Those two Marlin's look like winners to me.

As a person who started on a singleshot 20 and then graduated to a pump 12, I think pump guns for young kids are a mistake, especially in 12 gauge. Short butstocks are nice, but not sufficient. The whole action/balance is wrong and only gets worse with a short stock. They are heavy and require the long reach to operate them.

Any sort of double is much better with the geometry, and the balance can be, at least, not as bad as a loaded pump gun.

Ditto this for women shooters. I often seem them shooting "youth" 870s and similar. None of them shoot them well. But those few that have half decently fitted doubles of any kind, always shoot better.

Just my observations.


Not all pumps are 870s. You paint with a broad brush:



Sub 6lb Remington model 17. Just about everyone who ever touched it shot it well, and many of those were gun safety school kids and their nervous mothers. A key is keeping the loads light for newbs, but, a guy could do a lot worse for his kid or wife.

Best,
Ted


It's not all about weight and LOP either.

Besides, it's well known that 98.7% of all first pumpguns are either 870s or Mossbergs... smile


In Iowa. Maybe.

Best,
Ted

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If every resident of the Minnesota counties that border Iowa, moved to Iowa,
the cumulative IQ of both states would go up.


Actually, Ted, I lived in Minnesota at the time.

You know, every state tells that same joke about the state below it on the map.


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