In agreement with the other posters, acquire a copy of Walt's book/s if you possibly can; these are well written books loaded with information, and a good read even for those non-Ithaca fans. Hard to believe the asking for copies now. Just pulled my copy for a memory refresh, and to my surprise found Walt's original invoice tucked inside and dated 1/28/92; $52.95 to include shipping. My how times have changed! If you can come to the Southern Side x Side in April you'll most likely find Walt there at his table; he always has a great display of Ithaca double guns.