I've done just the opposite Lloyd. I've hand thrown hundreds of clays over the last few weeks for my boy. He's a bit bigger now, normally off somewhere else with other obligations. Taking advantage of the hunker, he's improving a noticable bit. We could go to the regular clays range, but we've also mixed in a bunch of pistol and longer range rifle shooting at the same shooting area. He even got the tannerite bug out of his system. Been throwing them all away, but I suppose I should check if steel head hulls will reload a time or two. Have fun with it.