I shoot a light little Bernardelli Elios 12ga 25" barrels at 5 lb 15 oz and it has been the hammer of Thor on wild MT bird, phesants, sharptails and huns. It is a pleasure to carry, lightning fast and choked IC/IM. I've been using B&P High Pheasant 1 oz 6's and 7/8 oz ITX 6 handloads.



Never could see the uses for 1 1/4 oz in good handling shotguns for upland birds. But I also hunt over good dogs.


Last edited by oskar; 04/03/20 10:50 PM.

After the first shot the rest are just noise.