Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: SKB
New Zealand has neither gun registration nor universal back ground checks but don't let the facts get in the way of your rant. You never do.


So what am I missing here Stevie? You said New Zealand has neither gun registration, nor universal background checks.

Yet the link you yourself provided says that ALL handguns are registered. And ALL Military Style Semi-Auto firearms require a special permit. And ALL gun owner must apply to the police for a police issued firearms permit.

Would you have us believe the police do not do any sort of background checks before issuing those permits to ALL firearms owners? Would you also have us believe they do not revoke those "lifetime" permits if someone commits certain crimes or acts irresponsibly with firearms?

So we know the police have a registry of all legal firearms owners. We know that all handguns are registered. We know that the definition of Military Style Semi-Automatic is quite a bit more broad than what we think here. Yet you are now telling us that that only a VERY VERY small percentage of firearms in New Zealand are registered. Well, I guess if you say that a special permit for all those semi-autos is not registration, and if you can convince yourself that having a data base of every legal firearm owner is not registration or Universal Background checking, you can make yourself believe anything. So long as it suits your agenda. Then you can accuse me of telling lies, and forget your own.

By the way, last Saturday, I bought a very nice Dan Wesson .357 magnum. I did the usual transfer with the form 4473. I also had to fill out another form to register it with our State Police. You probably didn't know this, but a Dan Wesson .357 mag is not a class III firearm.



Now Billie (Last name censored to protect those guilty of hacking other forum members hard drives),
you know that "Universal Back Ground check" means every transfer, every time. That is not how they do it in New Zealand. The buyer is checked one time in his lifetime. Only a very small percentage of the firearms in New Zealand are registered. We do not say that guns are registered in the USA but a very small number of them are, class III handguns/assault weapons in certain states or localities. In general though, guns are not registered here or in New Zealand. Sorry to confuse you with facts William.

Here something you may find interesting......no need to register hand guns here in Colorado. We enjoy a fair bit more gun freedom here than you do in Pennsylvania .....sure glad I left the East Coast when I was young, not to mention the huge expanses of public lands. Sure is beautiful out West. Take care Bill and do see about getting your horse back in the barn.
Steve

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Last edited by SKB; 03/17/19 07:52 PM.

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