Good conversation, a real treat. I'd broaden it by replacing Peta with the peculiar circularity of the rural-urban divide: what the majority antis are doing to us. The biggest migration in the world is from the countryside to the city, for the warmth and shelter and opportunities they couldn't find in the countryside. A nearby county here had an 11.4 per cent loss of residents over the last six years. The city separates them from Nature. They'll develop a cultural amnesia over time, as the refugees have before them.They develop a romanticized notion of Nature as they take in each other's wash in cities.The only answer is finding something along the lines of Michael Ignatieff's “code of tacit mutual acceptance” within “an intimate sociology and anthropology of ethics.”