Treblig, that's not what I'm saying at all.
I'm saying there were similarities as well as differences between the European and American gun making industries. I am saying that just because it is factory made doesn't mean it can't be considered a "classic" as defined by #3 in 2-piper's post. I am saying that the European gun making industry was far from exclusively "hand made" for a specific customer, as I took your post to be saying.
I have 4 lower grade Foxes, 3 lower grade Remingtons and 4 Piepers, all produced in large factories. Using 2-pipers definition, I consider them all to be well made and representative of a certain type of shotgun...."classics" of their kind if you will.
I tend to define "classic", whether for SxS guns, cars, wood boats, art deco architecture or most anything, as being very representative of a certain time and place. Classic isn't defined by me as valuable, collectable or best quality.
Last edited by canvasback; 01/13/14 02:18 PM.