I was 8 years old when my older brother graduated to a Model 12 and I inherited the Savage 311 sxs 20 ga. he had been shooting. The Old Man cut the stock off to fit, had the barrels cut from 28" to 25" (cyl & cyl)and told me I could start shooting on the fly. Until then, it had been sitting doves attracted by hand made silhouette decoys. I shot my first flying birds with that gun and continued with it until we put the piece of stock back on as I grew. doves, quail, pest pigeons, rabbits, ducks, and even a couple of geese fell to that gun. Reading Jack O'Connor (win. 21's) and Nash Buckingham later didn't help a damn bit....I was hooked. Still have the Savage 311; it is a house gun stuffed with 20 ga. no. 3 buck and it still locks up tight.