In our NAVHDA chapter the UGLY dog is the Grif.

Yes GWP/DD's are "sharpe" but then, when the stray cat population goes away - that's a bad thing????

A guy in our retriever club has a DD male, we were talking about aversion training. He said it didn't work on his male, it was just a mater of how many seconds it was going to take to kill the skunk/porky/snake/small woodland creature he encounterd................ if he found it - it died - quickly