canvasback wrote (in part): "Keith, Jim, Gnomon et al, I may be naive but I firmly believe we can all debate these issues, in as great a detail as any may wish, without getting into partisan politics. I don't have to name any person or party affiliation to discuss, prove or disprove any idea that someone else has put forth (LOL, unless it is Chris Matthews talking about Obama)"

canvas- didn't know you got Matthews in Canada. Do you get Joe Scarborough? His "Morning Joe" show (6-9AM) is fascinating. He's a conservative, former Florida Congressman, yet he has a wide range of guests. Much less shrill than Matthews and a much wider range of ideas presented ad discussed.