Greg, I've got an Eagle Grade(45E),circa 1921 V,L&D gun that is put together as good as anything else being built in those days. It's a 12 ga. ejector with 26" chopper lump Siemens bbls,with all the std.Francottefeature that even the 14E had,namely sideclips, Greener X-bolt,intercepting sears,double underbolts,and it weighs 6'3". The Belgians could build some stuff that could stand with anybody else. Regards, Marcus