Chuck, if you would want to consider a "started" pointer I know of several available from reputable people here. They are Elhew line bred, and plenty trained enough for hunting, knowing basic commands such as whoa, heel, hey (for changing direction), and here. These are "honest" enough to hold birds for the shot (broke to "wing") and will be like Scotch-better with age and hunting expirience. Most in the 1000 range. I would guarantee just about any of them as they are from guys I've known my whole bird dog life. I have a couple setters available as well. I certify my hips, eyes, and dispostion. Contact me if interested. I believe you would enjoy a pointing breed.

Double guns and English Setters