You win, Mike. If I didn't have guns that would do anything I wanted them to do, I would mess with the chokes to make them do what I wanted them to do. So far, I haven't had to do that, but I imagine some day I will have a gun that needs changing. Actually, I was close to opening the chokes on my favorite Smith shooter which has 32" full choke barrels. Just in the nick of time, I located a set of 30" improved cylinder and modified barrels for less money than it would have cost to open the chokes on the long barrels. Lucky me.