RMC, Ken Hurst is a very good friend and I am sharing situations with him regarding more than one gun job gone bad. My comment about Orlen's work is more tongue in cheek than pugilistic. I'm sure he does good work, but most of his customers are mislead by a modern attitude that a barrel butcher can make you a better shot. Orlen has found a niche in the gunsmithing world that should be lightly utilized by double gun owners, in my opinion. Double gun owners should realize that every duck gun can't also be a quail gun, especially when most of us already own a baggo quail guns. No, I am not criticizing Ken's use of Orlen's services.