Ken:

Thanks as I'm just trying to put some info together. The situtaion wasn't any different in England. Take Purdey for example: all the components of their longarm weren't made in-house as they at the very least sourced their locks from Chilton, unless an example is say a post 1980 one.

I will admit that there is one exception as far sourcing weapons from a network of highly skilled craftsmen. That exception is WWII, which leveled the playing field literally. True there may have been some left over stock that wasn't absconded by a passer-by, but for the most part firms had to build the end product from the ground up to and including the bead sight.

The following synopsis is an attempt to add additional info to explain the demise of the coveted Lindner-Daly longarms. I, or any one else, can start a new Charles Daly or S, D & G thread if need be or desired.


April 4th, 1859 four Schoverling brothers, Hans Hermann, Johann Rudolph, Johann Wilhelm and Heindrick August Schoverling, departed Osnabruck, Germany headed to American. Hans Hermann was in the tobacco industry and I think Heindrick was also. There was a Schoverling Tobacco and/or Schoverling Company just prior to Heindrick August Schoverling and Charles Daly crossing paths which resulted in Schoverling & Daly in 1862/5?. They had several addresses but they all seem centered near 302 Broadway and 84 Duane(I believe it was/is an intersection). Charles Daly, who acquired a MA from the College of the City of New York in 1855, was front and center until a fella named Joseph Gales of North Carolina joined their ranks in 1879. Schoverling(Heindrick August), Daly(Charles) and Gales(Joseph) purchased the quarters of John P. Moore & Son’s in 1888, which was at the same time S, D&G offered a drilling by the name of Charles Daly and Manhattan(??) in 32-20, 32-40, 38-55, 40-63 & 45-70, and set up shop in Moore’s quarters. Also at the time they were somewhat global by having an outlet/shop at 65 Weaman, Street, Birmingham, England. Things progressed on at a steady pace and fortunes were made as Charles Daly took delivery of a son named Charles Howard Daly on November, 6th, 1874 in New York. By 1894 I believe he had his PHD from Yale when the joined the firm of S, D&G(Obit. Records of Yale University 1925 may provide insight), 3 years after Heindrick August Schoverling expired while on a trip to Dusseldorf, Germany where at least one of his kids stayed and didn’t make the return trip. So Charles Howard Daly joined at an optimum time and then his father Charles Daly expired on January 11th, 1899(Born October 12, 1839 - there was a justice of attorney named Charles P. Daly who also expired in 1899):

Charles Daly – NY Times – January 14, 1899
“Charles Daly, senior member of the firm of Schoverling, Daly & Gales, died Jan. 11 at his home, in Summit, N.J. He had been at his office in New York until the usual hour, and spent the evening at home with his family. About 11 o’clock at(an) attack of apoplexy proved almost immediately fatal. Mr. Daly began his business career with the old firm of Tuffts & Colley about 1858, and afterward with Messrs. Sargent & Co., and later with Messrs. H. Boker & Co., whom he left in 1865 to join Mr.(Heindrick August) Schoverling. Mr. Daly was one of the incorporators and for many years President of the Marlin Firearms Company of New Haven, Conn. He was one of the organizers of the Hardware Club and took an active interest in its success, and was also a member of the Colonial Club. Mr. Daly was a member of the Presbyterian Church. He had been a widower for some ten years. A son and a daughter survive him – Charles Howard Daly and Mrs. R. Courtney King.”

By 1909 Charles Howard Daly was well established at S, D & G and S, D&G had the following folks:
Joseph Gales of North Carolina – President
Charles Howard Daly – Secretary & Treasurer
Director – Joseph Gales, Charles Howard Daly(Yale Grad), Theodore W. Stake & Frederic J. Wilbur

I found this Wikipedia site after I had composed this and it looks to be valid if there are any folks who question the info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Daly_firearms . So it looks as if S, D & G faultered at the end of WWI and may have also been a contributing factor to the demise of the Lindner-Daly Doubles & Drillings, etc.

I can't say for sure if Schoverling or Daly had the initial connection in Suhl, but for now I guess Schoverling unless H. Boker was the beginning for Daly.


Kind Regards,

Raimey
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