Mike, Talked to my dealer yesterday and he has one for me in 45-470. Will get it Tues. and start my quest with it, already shoot 45-70s so have all the fixings. Have 2 friends with them one in 06 the other 45-70. All they have done with them is some plinking and they like them. This is about as close as I'll get to a real double rifle probably at my age. Darn sure didn't need another firearm, more to give to the grandsons (4).