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Just landed a really interesting German Combo. It 20g over 10.3 x 60R. It has gold inlay around the hammer on right side says G.L. Rasch. The other hammer is the city, Braunsweig. Rifle barrel is marked GUSS-STAHL. There is a Crown V between the ribs near the breech. Another Crown V on the receiver. No other marks, no proofs under the barrel. Horn trigger guard and horn underlever. It locks up tight. Clean bores and perfect rifling. The seller did shoot BP reloaded cartridges and AA Target 20g. The wood is amazing. Circassian walnut. The seller stated that it was original 2 1/2" Shotgun but was lengthened to 2 3/4. Seller included 50 rounds, Hornady dies, extra bullets. Any ideas? Good or critical. Just realized I need to get my pictures into links. However here is the link where I acquired it German Cape Gun
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It was „ On-Hand“ / >>Vorrat<< in Rasch's shopt very early 1893.
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The seller dated the gun to the 1880s, however it shows the crown V (Vorrat Zeichnen) and as Raimey pointed out, it had not been sold as of Mar. 1893, when the 1891 proof law went into effect. G.L.Rasch was a known and respected name. GUSS-STAHL means cast steel. The shotgun barrel is said to be damascus finished, however there is a better than "good" chance that it is actual damascus. At the time the gun was made, it was pretty common to have a steel rifle barrel joined with a damascus shot gun barrel. Notwithstanding that the gun is not as old as the seller stated it is still antique(pre-1899), subject to the more lenient shipping rules.
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I wonder if there might also be another explanation for Crown/V, the Vorrat Zeichen, on this nice and rather early combination gun. Say the gun was made & sold in the early1880s; after a decade the owner decided to trade or sell it trough a gun shop when it experienced the official stamping in the early 1890s to confirm with the new law.
Raimey? Mike?
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Jani,
I learned a long time ago not to say anything is impossible when it comes to German guns.
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Jani, I think it was a >>trade-in<< or maybe the original custodian or commissioner had passed and an heir wanted something different or nothing @ all.
I can't remember right off without some diggin', but if a Jäger expired, was his wife or were his heirs & assigns legally assigned his sporting arms without additional paperwork?
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Although I haven't seen all the embellishment, I don't think this engraving is the typical G.L. Rasch engraving by the Brunswick engraver(s). I was trying to remember the name associated with it: Rascher...... https://www.germanhuntingguns.com/feature-articles/larrys-article/Some info here & apparently the RAF destroyed all the records..... Serbus, Raimey rse
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I can't remember right off without some diggin', but if a Jäger expired, was his wife or were his heirs & assigns legally assigned his sporting arms without additional paperwork? So if the heirs or assigns do not have the proper paperwork, it must be sold or surrendered to an authorized dealer. Serbus, Raimey rse
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