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#87459 - 03/11/08 09:43 PM fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not??
David Furman Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
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Loc: exit 11, Vermont
I have a 1926 fox sterlingworth that I'm restocking, which of course has about a 3" drop on the (non-original) wood...it will eventually wear new wood, although I'm not sure if that will be a straight stock, a POW or semi-pistol. I drew out a pattern on a big piece of paper today to aid in shopping for blanks, and realized in looking at the difference between where the comb is and where I want it to be, that the nose of the stock has the potential to be quite...protuberous, shall we say. I now understand why some choose to bend tangs...even for a pistol grip. On the other hand, someone recently showed me a straight stock (off the gun) for an unbent fox...

One friend says that he's never bent a tang on his several foxes, and having seen his stocks they look smashing. Another guy says he always bends the tangs, but in a way that I can't quite wrap my feeble mind around. Are these guns tangs different enough between various individual guns that some would need it and others wouldn't?? Or is this the personal preference of the owner?

So, I'm hoping to hear all sides of this coin...what do you think about this, and does anyone have more info on this tang-bending stuff?? Cost, before/after photos so I can understand (and usurp your project ideas), dangers, is this something I can do myself (beginner wood guy, not a metal guy--imagine there's more than simply bending involved), etc??

Thanks in advance,
Dave

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#87471 - 03/11/08 10:19 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: David Furman]
keith Offline
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Sounds like the answer may be as close as comparing the tang angles on your fox to those of your friend. I've seen enough broken tangs to know you wouldn't want to risk a cold bend. The dull red heat you'll need will entail stripping the action and ruining the case colors. By the time you finish, it may be cheaper to get silicone implants in your cheek to get your proper fit. Best of luck.
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#87474 - 03/11/08 10:28 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: keith]
Ken Hurst Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
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Loc: Robersonville, N.C.
If you are planning on re-color caseing the action, annealing said action would be your first step ($30.) and color case after bending ($175.) --- Classic Guns doing the work. Once the action is annealed, the tang can be brought to a yellow glow. With upper tang screwed to trigger plate, The tang can gently be bent to raise comb. I'd suggest Glenn Fewless for this work, he can be reached on this board. Give me a call if I can be of any help. Ken
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#87478 - 03/11/08 10:48 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: David Furman]
Doug Mann Offline
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Registered: 01/07/02
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Loc: St. Anne, Il
David, is this what you are talking about?
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#87560 - 03/12/08 02:18 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: Doug Mann]
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FINE GUNMAKING: DOUBLE SHOTGUNS (1998) by Steven Dodd Hughes
New, out of print, hardback, and 170 pages, large format,. An in-depth look at the creation of custom shotguns, lots of color and B&W photos. Special section on building custom Fox shotguns. Foreword by John Barsness.
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#87570 - 03/12/08 03:40 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: SDH-MT]
Doug Mann Offline
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Loc: St. Anne, Il
Steve, I should have mentioned your book. Its the primer on how to do this type of work.
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#87576 - 03/12/08 05:02 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: Doug Mann]
Kraft Offline
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Registered: 09/13/07
Posts: 82
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Doug Mann
Steve, I should have mentioned your book. Its the primer on how to do this type of work.

Amen, Mr Mann;
Not just "the primer" but also the inspiration to keep trying after you hit the wall on the first one.
Kraft
P.S. How can this be that Mr. Hughes only has three stars???

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#87585 - 03/12/08 06:26 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: Kraft]
KMcMichael Offline
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Registered: 08/16/04
Posts: 406
Loc: Artesia, NM
That top action is lovely.

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#87589 - 03/12/08 06:53 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: KMcMichael]
Ken Hurst Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 1698
Loc: Robersonville, N.C.
Your absolutely right Mr. Kraft. Steven Hughes should be well recognized for bringing this type of metal emblishment back. Thanks Me. Hughes. You should get his new book --- shows re-working an LC along with other valuable stuff. I bought it, used some of his ideas and am just about ready to have my 20 ga. E field gd. LC stocked. If you are an LC or sidelock fan & want to up-grade, this is the book for you. Lots of great ideas on what you could do. Ken


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#87590 - 03/12/08 07:13 PM Re: fox restock--to bend the tang(s) or not?? [Re: KMcMichael]
eightbore Offline
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Registered: 02/20/02
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Loc: Maryland
Since I am planning a Fox project, I will dig out Steven's book and reread the information on tang bending for custom projects. However, although Steven bends tangs, we have to remember that the change in drop at comb for most of us is the difference between 2 3/4" on an early Fox to maybe 2 3/8" or 2 1/4" on our custom guns. Possibly more than we would want to make up in extra comb nose height, but for some of us it may not be too much. My early A project gun has about a 2 1/2" drop at comb so I won't need much of a bend unless there is some other reason for a straightened tang that I will find out when I reread Steven's book. Doug and Steven, is there a reason to straighten the tang if the difference in drop at comb is not too much different?

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