doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Hello, need some help identifying this gun

I have seen cartridge adaptors that allow one to fire a low cost pistol cartridge in rifles. Would such a device meet your legal requirement for monthly firing? Or does it have to the original cartridge?

"What I mean to say is this, don't be to negative about gun controll laws, they might curtail your "god given right to bear firearms" a bit, but they also make the world a bit safer for everyone (And NO, I am not a socialist or liberal)"

I feel "safer" with my 45 cocked and locked and under my jacket and living in a free country!

Be carefull that you do not remove your own private parts when it accidentally discharges, it has happend before

But seriously, having some gun laws around to regulate guns and keep most of them out of the generall population is not THAT bad, but I have to admit that I am undoutably biased as I grew up in a country that has very strict ones.

Greets

William

Hmmm That might actually be a good solution to my problem.

Would't doing something like that with a small round, lets say.22 damage the grooves in my barrel as it has no grooves to control it's spin as it travels up the barrel ?? .

William,
we do certianly have different views of gun control and not to take the thread in one way direction but I bet one of those kids teachers at Columbine or VT would have been safer with a 45 then waiting for his bullet instead of help that never came in time.My condition one carry is very safe requiring three things (thumb safty,grip safty,and trigger pull)before discharge.

The insert idea has lots of merit and I doubt firing a 22 in that barrel will have any affect and certianly less than giving up such a nice combo or filling it with lead.
Kreighoff makes a ESL that might work;
http://www.krieghoff.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,14/

Thanks.

But that Krieghoff insert barrel is only available as a "custom factory fit".

I did however find this Rifle barrel insert calibre .22 l.r. rimfire

With firing transmission, ejector rod, cleaning brush. For magazine rifles and combined rifles for target shooting.



It will undoubtable cost a fortune, but I think I will need something like this in order to keep my gun.

Thanks.

William,
that does look like it would do the trick and as you say for much less.Is it required that you fire both barrels?Perhaps just a light 16 load might do the trick?
Do all you can to keep that fine gun,if it was here in this country you could probably get at least 3K of ever sinking American dollars that could be turned into Euros or Gold
Best,
Dave

What a shame that some dumb a$$ politician came up with such a stupid and useless requirement...... Duh. That is a beautiful piece of art, in addition to it being a beautiful firearm. Good Luck.

William2, you do have a very nice gun. It's obviously a Merkel action, and a very useble thing for a hunter. In fact, a European hunter, provided lead shot is legal in that country, can be quite happy hunting with just this combo and not feel a need to own anything else.

Now here are a couple of possible suggestions to your problem.

First thing - is reloading rifle cartridges legal in Holland? If your objective is just to make some holes in the paper, and you're not especially concerned with accuracy or power - then you can load some very cheap stuff. Like, a halfload of black powder - I'm persnally in favor of BP for such things, because it generates very low pressures and velocity, you realy can't damage a nitro rifle with BP - so, for example, a patched lead ball (you can mold it yourself a home) over a halfload of BP will give you a very cheap and very safe cartridge to shoot. There are members of this board who are very knowledgable about loading for old guns, and I'm sure the can help you with advice.

Next thing - I understand that to have a hunting weapon, you need proof that you have the hinting rights. My question is - do you need to have hunting rights in Holland? Will another country do? Because I know that some German hunters, almost never hunt in Germany. They prefer cheaper hunting in Eastern Europe. So, why can't you try and get a paper from, say, a Polish outfitter? If you have a good friedly talk with one of those, I'm sure something can be arranged. Like, why can't you book a roe-deer hunting trip, use it as proof of hunting righs, and then you'd catch a cold or have an emergency at work and be forced to give up the trip this year but reschedule it for the next year instead?

After all, I don't know how you feel about hunting in general, but a bit of modest hunting in EE is not that expensive - and there's huge satisfaction in seeing the old gun do what it was made to do.

Finally, you might look a little harder for hunting "clubs" or "societies" in Holland. I don't know for sure, but my intuition suggests, that the legislation as you described ought to bring to life some "clubs" or something like that, that'll give you hunting rights over some plot of land, for a fee, probably with understanding that you wil not actually use that right.

Good luck!

When you think that the most popular boy's name in Belgium has been Mohammed, and when you think of the French riots of 2005. It might be a good idea to get a few boxes of ammo, both shells and cartridges and salt that thing away for perhaps bad times ahead?
Better to have an illegal weapon in your home, than being toasted in your house!