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GJZ #82141 02/09/08 10:14 AM
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I shared a field test gun with another outdoor writer. Ours didn't have any finish or rib issues, pretty nice wood, good fitting, etc. However, it did have the trigger pull problem. Other than that . . . if you want to compare it to an AyA 4/53, both new guns, that'd probably be a valid comparison. I too think there are some great deals out there in the used market, although the BSS Sporter 20ga has suffered severe inflation. But we're talking new guns here, and there ain't any new Foxes (not for under 5 figures anyhow) or BSS out there as options.

Ted, when it comes to analyzing the situation in the Middle East, you may want to stick to French guns with sliding breeches. Turkey has been a democracy longer than most of the countries in Europe. It's about as likely to become the next Iraq as, maybe, Spain? Whether they make good shotguns, however, is a totally different subject--and one more appropriate for discussion here.

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Well, Larry, Iraq was a very progressive Arab nation until about 1973 or so. Yes, Turkey is a democracy, with a double edged sword of militant Muslim mullahs close to the popular elected parties and a growing problem with it's Kurdish minority that has never been addressed properly. Unfortunately, simply drawing a border somewhere in the middle east hasn't worked out for the best, and I'm not interested in investing too much of my money in the region.
You, and S & W are free to do what you want-I'm going to guess you didn't buy the Smith you tested, right?
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Ted Schefelbein #82179 02/09/08 03:57 PM
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Nope, not much of a 20ga/ST guy, Ted.

Turkey's borders haven't changed a whole bunch since the end of WWI. That's 90 years. Yes, they have an issue with the Kurds--as do both Iraq and Iran as well. And it is indeed a Muslim nation. But it's survived quite well ever since Attaturk "modernized" it after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. To compare it to Iraq, which is an artificial entity created in the wake of WWI, and which remained a British colony/protectorate for some time afterwards . . . that takes more stretching than opening the breech of a Darne.

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Back sometime around Christmas at the Gander Mountain in Evansville, IN., they had one. It looked nice and i suppose it had been used little. There price 1100.00 I'm sure. Cause i was thinking about buying if it wasn't Christmas time. Oh well, i guess i missed another good deal!

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