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Jimmy W #79364 01/25/08 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jimmy W
And for those of you who think you are going to BUY a gun from a dealer, have it arrive as was described, PLUS have it get there safely, well, you must be a blond. Good luck.


Jimmy . . .

God gave my wife and my daughter blond hair, your insinuation that they don’t get it is just downright demeaning.

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I had a conversation with a high up directer of UPS a few years ago. They have had a couple of problems with individuals shipping guns via UPS.

Here is what they have experienced

One gun that he recanted was loaded in the shipping box. The boxed was dropped, probably off the belt or something, who knows. It discharged. No one was hurt, luckly. He know of this happening at least once and said he thinks he heard of another case.

Second, they have found in the past individuals selling guns to out of state residents, shipping them directly to non-licensed individuals. A violation of federal law. In this case when the feds became involved to charge the individuals, UPS had to become involved to supply shipping records and to testify in these cases. Even thought UPS did nothing wrong, they did not want to have the hassle of the situation. Which I can not blame them. So yes, its more difficult to send guns via UPS unless you are set up for it as a regular account.

I fully believe that in the near present that as an individual you will only be able to send guns through an FFL dealer


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Not to be disrespectful to you, John, but I can only take this director's statement to mean: (1) That they knew there was a gun being shipped so they (accidently)(?) dropped it. And he THINKS he heard of another time it happened. Did he happen to mention from what elevation it was (accidently) dropped? (2)They had to supply records for a court case to trace a package, because this is what they are being paid to do and they got upset about it? (3) According to the stories we hear on these boards, this gives them the right to retaliate against ALL people who want to legally ship a gun, by elevating the package on one end to a certain degree so a towmotor can break it in half when it is (accidently)run over/or they can unscrew all the screws that hold the case together, steal the contents, then put the crate back together in a sloppy manner and say that is the way it was shipped originally.....Well, this director has surely put my mind at ease.

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