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Been looking at a couple of old recoil pads and wondering about their time period and who made them. One is marked Red Head Chicago with a standing duck, and the other is marked TruSport Phila, PA. Both have a little shield near the bottom with Patent No. 105358. U.S. Patent No. 105358 is for a cultivator granted on July 12, 1870, to J.B. Moody?!? None of my old catalogues, H&D Folsom, E.K. Tryon, Stoegers, SD&G, etc. show anything but various Jostam pads, the Goodrich pad, and Silvers pads, with the Hawkins and NoShoc appearing in the 1930s. I don't know what period these RedHead or TruSport pads appeared.
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I have a Stevens 5000 with the Redhead but it's stamped "patent applied for".
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Researcher, the first I see a Redhead Pad offered is in the Burkhard catalog of 1936, 1937, and 1938. I don't find it in approx 30 other catalogs of the post 1900 period. Price was $0.95 the first year and $1.25 after. I do not see a Trupoint, but some gun companies had their own logo or brand name on a pad produced by others.
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Researcher, The patent number was D105358, issued July, 1937. http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPATD105358
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RB, good find. How did you decide to add a D to the patent number for your search ?
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Thanks RR. I have the same question as Daryl?
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I went to Googles patent search and did a search for 105358.
The top result was the cultivator but about halfway down was a 1998 patent for a gel recoil pad that referenced back to the D105358 patent and I was able to find it through that. If you'll notice the patent is incorrectly labeled as a "Kecoil" pad so I'm sure that didn't help your original search.
Rob
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Google used OCR (Optical character recognition) software to copy all the patents, once you have worked with it for a while you will find many, many mistakes in the spelling. Even with all the problems Google is light years ahead of the patent office for online searches, you can do the normal type of Google searches at their patent search page and find what you need much faster. http://www.google.com/patents Experiment, try things like Tonks fire-arms or tonks firearms after you get a feel for the place it goes fast. sometimes a single word will bring you something you never knew was there like "Wundhammer".
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Further on the Red Head pad . . . I just bought a Marlin 90, SN in the 12,000 range. It has the very pad you picture, Researcher. And looking at my Stoeger's catalog from 1940, it appears from the photos that both the "Standard" and "Skeetking" Model 90's came with a Red Head from the factory, although the text says only "rubber recoil pad".
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Do these pads on the pre WW-II Marlin Model 90s have the Red Head logo or a Marlin logo?
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