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That's the one that John Barsness uses, Chuck. Avoids a chance of annealing the head of the case. So, c'mon, I know you have more than the ability to whip out one or the other of JL's trimmers in a jiff. Have you? Can't have spent all your time sticking that piece of English walnut on the Parker. Haven't heard back from Mike B. He may have got busy on this?

jack

Mike I'm not having trouble seeing it anymore...what was it's intended purpose as a shot shell ?

The old hand crank roll crimpers will work great with paper. Brass shells "can" be done but it is hard on the user and the crimper. With brass, all you are looking for is a slight radius roll of the mouth. I have no examples of an american factory shell using a star crimp (I couldn't absolutely rule it out). You will find some european examples done so. Some early Winchester shells did use a serrated "finger" crimp. The vast majority of factory boxes of brass shotshells (and early paper) were sold NPE or unprimed empties. You can find military boxes by Winchester and Remington that are factory loaded, but you will not find 1 in 200 of the early civilian market brass shell boxes marked loaded with powder and shot. The exception to this is the loaded all brass 410 shotshells by the United States Cartidge Co. and a few by Montgomery Ward.
You don't have to take my word for it, just seriously collect them for a few decades and see what you come up with.

Joe it is still loaded. It has a cardboard disc just like a paper roll crimp. I have some somewhere here that are crimped completely closed but they are out in the storage shed somewhere and in Alaska in the winter I don't go out there much.