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My .02 is that most of the old guns we find should be minimally restored. I mean, first things first. You HAVE to clean them up and stop any rust or pitting or other corrosion. Some may have to be blued. Stocks should be repaired and in some cases replaced. But, if you can essentially give it a boost along its way and still preserve what it was/is that is a good thing.
At some point, a gun is trashed enough that there is no sense in trying to "preserve" it or "be faithful" to what it was.
I personally think "project guns" which are going to be essentially rebuilt, like a blazing Phoenix arising from the flames, should indeed come from sound but trashed guns. The barrels have to be good enough support the project but if a gun is going to be annealed, newly engraved, restocked etc. then it should be one which can't be rehabbed.
Now the real issue for all of us who love these old guns is what is going to happen when the powers that be ultimately outlaw lead shot. It makes me shudder.
Regards to all, Jake I could not have said it better. We are looking for the same guns.
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dblfever..........who'd you get to relay ribs for 400?
From his 2006 price list.... "RESOLDERING: Price includes bore and choke measurements, slow heat disassembly, regulation, reassembly, hand polish and slow rust blue. We are not responsible for barrels that are unsafe to be soldered once disassembled. There will will be additional charges for ribs that need to replaced." Resolder and reblue ...$385 After a famous SxS guy butchered my barrels, I contacted another famous SxS shop and asked them if they could relay the ribs. They said "Why don't you take them to Giacomo?...that's where we'll send them." Mike I just checked his website and there's no mention of relaying ribs on doubles, does he still do it?
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Yes, Giacomo's still relays and reblues for $385. Just talked to them last week.
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Rob;
As you probably know, Giacomo is the head man and is a Perazzi guru. People who know and deal with Giacomo directly sometimes get a little different perspective of the services offered.
If you email them and ask for a price list, you'll get a prompt reply and find they do much more than service Perazzis. Even so, I suspect the list is not comprehensive; for instance, under barrel work, they list boring, polishing and correcting dents and bulges but don't mention choke/cone alterations which they've done for me in the past and I suspect they still do.
They are wonderful people to deal with and the only shop in the country I wholeheartedly endorse.
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Thanks Mike, I have sent an email to Giacomo with my inquiry. I have an otherwise very good condition Lefever G Grade that has a ring bulge in the damascus barrels I'd like to have done.
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At some point, a gun is trashed enough that there is no sense in trying to "preserve" it or "be faithful" to what it was.
I found a Model 1912 Tournament Grade with straight grip and solid rib for $150. It was a beater, but shootable. I put about $1400 into it in parts and professional labor, and I now have the best looking Tournament Grade 1912 I've ever seen. Of course, it's not original and I probably won't get my money out in this lifetime, but who cares? Old guns are like old cars. You are generally much better off buying one that someone else has dumped a pile of money into.
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Old guns are like old cars. You are generally much better off buying one that someone else has dumped a pile of money into. Ain't it the truth. I own a few beautiful guns that someone else put a bunch of money and time into. I have purchased them for a whole bunch less than it would cost to have the work done. But, I have my projects as well. I currently have two SWs back being stocked with Ken's man Boone. And when that is done the fun really begins. And on we go. Regards, Jake
R. Craig Clark
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From a gunamker's poitn of view, it is a good way to get very little for your labor. Making a gun to someone's specs is usually several times more profitable than building a spec gun and hoping it is what soemone wants. Now makers who are established and at the top of the field can do it and make money. But that is because these folks have spent years developing their skills and reputation, and their waiting list is years long.
I also am in 100% agreement with King et al that a gun that has been recased is a MAJOR turn off to me. I am firmly of the belief that a gun should only be recased when it is required for mechanical performance. CC'ing for "looks" is terrible in my view, and I will be very glad when this current fad of CC'ing any and everything will go away. If you need to reshape or engrave an action, then of course it will need to be recased. But if it was done just to ge "pretty colors" then for me the gun is worht less money.
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Last edited by Chuck H; 12/10/07 11:22 AM.
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Chuck,
What if you're ablebodied but feeble minded?
I bid $1500 !!!
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