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#656546 01/21/25 01:57 PM
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I am looking at an ad for the Upland Gun Company on the rear cover of the Project Upland magazine.
I detect no monoblock seam in the image.
I know a member here has some, and I wish to know how their barrels are joined.
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Wouldn't this be the most reliable way to get your answer?

Copied straight from their website:

Email: info@uplandguncompany.com
Phone: 218.760.8009
(Sales & General Info)


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You might find answers here too as Mr. Carter was at the factory having his own gun built in this video.


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Johnny says they are chopperlump barrels.

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I didn’t want to waste their time. Or mine.
I just wanted to know how the barrels were joined.
A member here has several. My optimism suggested he might reply quickly.
A verifiable answer popped up here in less time than it might have taken to generate an email that may never have been answered.
Now I know.


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My guess is they are "Piani Fissi" or "Pianio Fisso"barrels.
Don't know the English word.
For the price of an Upland Gun Company/R.F.M. not likely to be Chopper Lump (in Italy "Demi Bloc).
But maybe some R.F.M. models are really Chopper Lump.

The Upland Gun Company site says the Zeus are Mono Bloc and Venus are Chopper Lump.
I respect Johnny Carter but I think R.F.M. may have given him the wrong info.

For the price I bet they are really the same construction I have on a Bernardelli Roma 6 and the Rizzini BR550.
And same used on the current Beretta SxS they call it "Tri-Bloc"
Maybe I should not be so sceptical - but have reason to be.

Effebi Piani Fissi

Beretta Tri Bloc

Upland Gun Company


Only way to be sure is to look at the barrels to see the Chopper Lump Seam.
As per the Hallowell info.
Hallowell Lumps.

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The Piani Fissi seems to be a somewhat simplified version of the Bonehill Patent Clip Lump of 1884.

In my Bonehill Belmont Interchangeable Hammerless, an early machine made gun, the clip lump incorporates not only the lump and barrel flats but also the top extension, lower rear rib and forend loop.

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Originally Posted by Parabola
The Piani Fissi seems to be a somewhat simplified version of the Bonehill Patent Clip Lump of 1884.

In my Bonehill Belmont Interchangeable Hammerless, an early machine made gun, the clip lump incorporates not only the lump and barrel flats but also the top extension, lower rear rib and forend loop.

Thanks for the info.
Learned something today.


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This has got me thinking about a new .410, with maybe 31" barrels. Hmmm . . . .


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Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
A verifiable answer popped up here in less time than it might have taken to generate an email that may never have been answered. Now I know.

Yeah, verifiable how, and when? The poster just below you who obviously has no small amount of knowledge about Italian doublegun manufacturing methods doesn't seem to be as convinced of their being of chopper lump construction as do you. While you now sit back convinced you have the correct answer you could have placed one phone call to the company and gotten an answer straight from the horse's mouth. While you THINK you know the answer from replies on here I reached out by phone to Upland Gun Company and spoke to their representative in an instant. He answered my question about barrel joining and the answer was NOT what you thought you "knew".

UGC said they use both mono-bloc and demi-bloc construction. Mono-bloc is the default method used on the lower priced model S X S ((Zeus) with demi-bloc being used on the upgraded model (Venus). However, and you could not have found this out with anything less than a phone call to them, they WILL build the Zeus with demi-bloc barrels upon request, roughly a $400 upgrade option.

So, CZ, while you rest in your answer you THINK is correct, based on hearsay, there is the REAL answer. You should team up with ed good. Both of you would rather generate a post designed to have someone else do your legwork for you than do it yourself. That phone call took me all of three minutes, and cost nothing. I could care less that YOU get a correct answer to your question. I made the call because I wanted to know, for my future wants. BTW, the rep I spoke with thanked me for calling and asked me to call again, so he didn't consider it a waste of his time at all.


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