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Today I saw a deluxe CZ 20 gauge SxS with sideplates and very, very fancy wood for $1,699 list, discounted to $1,399. Kind of expensive for a HUGLU, but nice enough that I was tempted.
The case colors and fancy wood were really outstanding!
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I have a few doubles, one being a Huglu 28. It is a livelely lil gun, and I have shot thousands of rounds thru it. For the money, they are a pretty good buy. Mine has double triggers. I had one with a single trigger, and did have problems with it. The one I currently own is the bottom of the line but pretty case and wood..
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I have a number of doubles, but my go to ones in the last 4 years have been CZ Bobwhites one in 20 ga. and the other in 28. DT because all my SxSs have thembesides I prefer them. Anyway my experience has been the same as Last Dollar's. Personally I wouldn't pay $1400 for one, but what the heck if it fits you and you like it go for it. $1400 would buy me 2 more Bobwhites, but I don't really need them. Have to save now for gas and ammo, seems like the firearm is the least of my expenses.
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I have had pretty good luck with the Huglu line. The first gun I bough was a 28gs. for $489.00 on a closeout at Gander Mountain. It was one of the early guns and had a single trigger issue. It went back and the problem has been fixed...fanfiring.
I bought a second gun, this time a .410 CZ Ringneck. It has the same configuration as my Armsco with the exception of the case coloring. It's a nice gun with a very good trigger out of the box.
Bottom line, there good value for the money and a fun guns to play around with. They make great rainy day grouse guns, especially the 28ga.. I don't think I would put $1,400 into one. At that price, you might want to consider an L.C. Smith.
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Bought a Dehaan SRG13 O/U. The gun has real nice WOOD PORN. Good gun. I plan to do a review and post it to the board as soon as hunting season slows down. It was dedfinately worth the money.
-Shoot Straight, IM
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I had a Dehaan SO straight grip double triggers 20 gauge. I bought because I wanted something I could grab and go hunting with. I didnt want to work on it. It was a really nice little shotgun for the money. I traded it off however for an Ithica DS a few years back.
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i have several fine sxs's but when I get behind my dog in thick country, i pull out a 28ga ringneck..it shoots where i point it, and is easy to carry. I did not think I would like it, but bought it for 875 new in the box and could not be happier.
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I have well over 5000 rounds of SAMMI ammo through my 20 gauge C.Z "Bobwhite" now with zero problems.I dont think you can do much better for the money as a utility gun.
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Today I saw a deluxe CZ 20 gauge SxS with sideplates and very, very fancy wood for $1,699 list, discounted to $1,399. JERRY Jerry, I'm familiar with the gun you looked at, at least I'm pretty sure it's the same gun. You're right, that's knockout gorgeous exhibition quality wood by anyone's standards! Bill
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I have a 28ga ringneck, single trigger and realy enjoy this gun, no problems yet with countless rounds through her!
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I just bought a matched pair of S2 Dehaan's in 28 ga. and .410. Paid $1019.00 each. Both English and splinter, 28" bbls.and SST. They should arrive on Monday. I did a lot of research on them and they seemed to be a lot of gun for the money. DeHaan has ceased production of their off the rack guns and will only be making their custom line from now on. I got the last off the rack 28 and the last of two .410's. They seem to have a committed following. We will see on Monday.
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DT, matched pair, different bore, for that price? Wow! Great deal.
JC
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I also just ordered a DeHaan S2 with full scroll in 20 ga. with SST and semi-beavertail, semi-pistol for $855 delivered. I got the last 20 gauge production gun but hope to swipe a 20 ga. S0 (less engraving, English grip, DT) that may be returned next week. Mine is predicted to arrive on Monday as well.
I've researched Huglus and more specifically DeHaans for quite some time now and they do appear to have a quite a following and be a pretty good deal for the $$$
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DT, matched pair, different bore, for that price? Wow! Great deal.
JC Yes and that price includes shipping. Hard to even find a 311 in .410 for that kind of money.
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DT, how about some pictures?
JC
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As mentioned earlier in this post, I have a 28. Yesterday I bought a 12. 28" bbls. Pic is of 2 roosters taken this morning, with #4 Steel shot. I took one more after lunch, but had already cleaned the first 2, sorry. Like everyone else, I am anticipating we will be forced to use nontox very soon, I thought I would try it for the last 2 weeks of our season, just to form an opinion. so far so good. The CZ pictured is not the most gracesful gun in the world, but fits me well....It is lighter than my favorite pheasant gun, a Lefever "E" 10 bore! FYI: Temp was 4 degrees..
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DT, how about some pictures?
JC Sure, as soon as they get here. Check with UPS tracking today and they are on time, due Monday.
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I wish cz would upgrade the wood a bit on their bobwhites. Ask another hundred bucks for some nicer standard wood with a nicer finish and I bet they would fly out the door, relatively speaking.
Imagination is everything. - Einstein
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I bought a rifle from CZ. It was a manlicher style full stock. The pictured gun on their site was nice. Now realistically, I knew it would not look like that gun, but when I got it it was just clear wood,no figure at all. Now I was not told about or offered a wood upgrade. So I called them in just the off chance that they would consider and exchange for a better wooded gun. FINALLY after talking to everyone who basically said "Too bad, we don't offer that option", I talked to their head gunsmith who made a statement about their "Czhecnologly" as he called it. Now I notice they offer a wood upgrade on their site that sez you can get fancy wood for a $1000.00 more.
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Good morning DT,
Did they arrive?
JC
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I have a buddy that is a retailer for CZ. The sales rep told him they are saving most of the quality wood for the Safari grade rifles.
Dodging lions and wasting time.....
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Do you think the birds knew it wasn't the Lefever? Nice pics! Thanks, Craig
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If they did they didnt mention it! At this moment it is -11 degrees, so any further pursuit of birds will have to wait a bit....
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That 'Czhecnology' is pretty good. I own pistol marked CZ MODEL 75 CAL 9 PARA on the slide. It's one of them early high polish ones imported through Ontario Canada. I can honestly say I would not want to get anything else. Well, prehaps I could trade way up to Korth, but that's about it.
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Nice looking guns. Let us know how they shoot. I am looking for a shooter 28 ga gun for dove season.
The crest reminds me of this Mexican resort we stayed at. They had the same symbol everywhere in the resort that is on the opening lever.
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They are a handsome pair. Keep us informed as to how they perform for you. Thank you for sharing the pictures.
> Jim Legg <
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Nice guns DT and sidelocks to boot. Doesn't CZ make the Hatfield double and if so don't they stock those in nice piece of curly maple??
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I can't wait to shoot them, but it is just too damn cold out.
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DT, congratulations, veeery nice!!!!
Do share their loss of virginity. :-)
JC
P.S.: Sideplated boxlocks? jc
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Luvly brace of side-plated guns. Just look at the proportions, sooooo svelte. Hey, there is no big 20br actions with tiny barrels sticking out and engraving appears to be Homo sapiens with "hammer und chisel". Gander Mtn. where I got bunch of 28ga shells got some of them s-plated CZ-marketed guns with birdy names. They look like pretty good guns.
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That is a good-looking pair, and fairly well matched for off-the-shelf guns.
BTW - They are box-locks with "false" sideplates. De Haan and CZ have similar models, a "Base" model w/o the false sideplates and with 2 triggers, and an "upscale" model with the false side plates and a SST. De Haan called them SO and S2, CZ calls them Bobwhite and I believe Ringneck. De Haan's are hard chrome finished, most white but a few black, while the CZ's are all case colored, I believe.
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Thanks guys it's always nice get the approval of this bunch, especially seeing that they are "budget" guns. You're right they are a pretty close match being off the rack. The 28 is a bit lighter and pretty straight grained. Yes they are side plate guns, and hard chromed. I wish they were a little less bright, but maybe time will do that. They are hand chiseled. The two have very subtle differences in the engraving. The barrel selectors are different on them also. The CZ and the DeHaan guns that are colored are more of a "paint on" and not really cased. The .410 is really stunning in person. They both have great lines and swing nicely. They fit me very well at 14 1/2" lop even with my "monkey arms". Dehaan uses 5 different receivers in their line, so each receiver is gauge specific.
The .410 was the most important of the two. The first gun my Dad bought me was a single shot JC Higgins .410. Dad died in Oct. and as a tribute to him I bought the last gun I would get from him with part of an insurance pay out. I thought it would be fitting to have it be a .410, a nice one, and to add my own touch, it would be a double.
I'm sure he's smilin' down.
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