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Originally Posted by Argo44
(God meant this to be a battlefield.).


What do you make of this, Stan? I find it rather curious.


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Not as good as a hockey thread, ed, but I reckon it’ll do.

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Interesting piece of history. Thanks for sharing, ed.

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The Civil War resulted in such heavy losses at least in part because Napoleonic tactics were still in use when technology (improved weapons) should have made them obsolete.

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Originally Posted by L. Brown
The Civil War...

Stan needs to use the correct terminology.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/...s-share&referringSource=articleShare


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Welcome back Lonesome. I know how much you enjoy the Puritans, but I'll give you Ezekiel Hopkins, "On Glorifying God in His Attributes"
Nothing comes to pass without our heavenly Father. No evil comes to pass without his permissive providence, and no good without his ordaining providence to his own ends. Divine providence does not only ordain what effects shall come to pass, but also by what means, what causes, and in what order they shall flow. God has appointed not only the effect itself, but the means to accomplish it.

1. One must be extremely cautious in presuming to know God's sovereign will and purpose ie. who is he punishing will Hurricane Beryl right now? Isaiah 55:8-9
2. God is good, but can use evil to accomplish his purpose, which is ultimately for good and His glory - Genesis 50:20
3. God will use evil people doing evil things to accomplish his purpose ie. the Babylonians and Israel - Jeremiah 18:17
4. Our PRIMARY battle is spiritual (Ephesians 6:10-11) but will live in a world filled with physical conflict, and must pick sides, and IMHO sometimes fight
5. Both the North and the South in the War Between the States thought God was on their side.

Abraham Lincoln's March 30, 1863 proclamation establishing a National Day of Fasting and Prayer
It is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, and to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in Holy Scripture, and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord. And, insomuch as we know that by His divine law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisement in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people?
We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have grown in numbers, wealth and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which has preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us.
It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended power, to confess our national sins and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.

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It’s the only thing I could think of what that statement meant, Drew. God was on the Union side.


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Abraham Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address, delivered March 4th, 1865 during the fourth year of the Civil War
Each (party) looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces…(but) the prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes.

Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.” (Psalm 19:9b)


Another relevant question is "How much longer is He going to put up with us?"

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Another relevant question is "How much longer is He going to put up with us?"

Hopefully long enough for the Red Wings to win another Stanley Cup.


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from 1914-18, and again from 1939 - 1945, german troops marked into battle wearing belt buckles that said....GOTT MIT UNS - such delusions are pretty typical for our species.

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Originally Posted by graybeardtmm3
from 1914-18, and again from 1939 - 1945, german troops marked into battle wearing belt buckles that said....GOTT MIT UNS - such delusions are pretty typical for our species.

best regards,

tom

"There is a way which seems right to a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Proverbs 14:12

We can fool ourselves very easily into believing we are on God's side. If that way doesn't align perfectly with Scripture it is not of God, but of Satan. But, it is not always easy to determine.


May God bless America and those who defend her.
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