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Originally Posted by Argo44
Follow-up related article: They've become such a problem they now have to be hunted.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/western-wolves-made-comeback-now-170152831.html

Jeez, that was a politically biased article. Read more like a press release from PETA.


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Originally Posted by GLS
Stan, is this a new release or an old one? There was a pocket of red wolves in SW GA, but the stock has probably been diluted via interbreeding with coyotes. The red wolf is not as large as the grey. Gil


It's the older one, Gil. I just learned of it last year, however.


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
If I could get my hands on some CWD in a bottle and release it here, and not get caught, I would.

I know you said this out of frustration but dying from CWD is a horrible way to go out for a deer (or cow, sheep, or human that has contracted similar prion diseases).

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Originally Posted by SKB
I am not very happy about this, or any wildlife management via the ballot box. We have Biologists and a host of others within our Parks and Wildlife dept that are far better suited to make these decisions. I'm not so sure the Wolves would not have established themselves anyway, we had recently documented pups born in CO with no human help, they have been seen here for years. I would not be surprised at all if they are documented in Boulder County this summer, they are currently just on the other side of the divide.

This is the same way Spring bear hunting and hunting Bears with dogs was banned, no science just Disney at the ballot box. Fast forward 20 plus years and we now have way too many Bears.

The irony of a Liberal who supports and votes for Liberal Democrats, then complaining about being negatively impacted by Liberal Left policies... is just too precious!

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Originally Posted by Bluestem
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
If I could get my hands on some CWD in a bottle and release it here, and not get caught, I would.

I know you said this out of frustration but dying from CWD is a horrible way to go out for a deer (or cow, sheep, or human that has contracted similar prion diseases).

People dying from a car collision with a deer is not a good way to go either, Bluestem. What's more important, people and their food, or deer? I know of numerous cases of that in my area. My crop damage is but a part of my frustrations with deer here. You would not believe the property damage to vehicles in our part of the world. Deer hit them, manage to make it into the woods and die a slow death. People die from the collisions. Body shops are making out like bandits, to the point that you cannot get any of them to do a whole vehicle paint job for you. They are making too much money from deer collisions. And who's paying for those repairs? Not the insurance companies. Yeah, they pay the shop bill, but their actuaries make sure we all pay enough in premiums that the insurance companies are still making lots of profits.

Yes, I said it out of frustration, but I meant it. Desperate times call for desperate measures. We desperately get depradation permits during the crops' growing season to kill deer. Ten to a permit. The DNR says "When you fill that one call back and we'll issue another." They know they're largely to blame for managing the seasons and bag limits to maximize the carrying capacity of the land in terms of deer numbers. Now they're holding hearings to hear what the farmers and other residents have to say about the numbers of deer. What needs to happen is a class action lawsuit brought by citizens, against the DNR, who have lost untold millions due to crop and vehicle damage. Would I unleash CWD on the deer here if I could? In a skinny minute.


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Stan I would love to come out and help with the deer problem.

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Imagine, when you "put the lights out" on a doe, that you are standing in the surf dipping water into a 55 gallon drum with a thimble. That's the effect killing them (on permits) have on the overall population. Difference is that you can dip water out of the ocean in the daytime.......... you have to stay up late to shoot deer during the night, then have to work 10-12 hours the next day. It sounds like fun, but it ain't.


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I've had three vehicles hit by deer; one totaled my F-150. I have no issues with culling excess deer. Stack them like cordwood if you like. But I wouldn't wish this type of disease on any of God's creatures:

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I think it's fine to have differing opinions, but pest control and predator policy would do well without an emotional component. What if it's against the law to stack 'em like cord wood, or any other provocative wording. Then, what?

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