doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion German & Austrian Sporting Guns @ doublegunshop.com Daly Timeline Post WWI - Not for Canvas-Back Eyes

So after Charles Daly's death on January 11th 1899 @ his home in Summit New Jersey, then on November 25th, 1899 Schoverling, Daly & Gales was incorporated by Jospeh Gales of Elizabeth, New Jersey, Ella Daly King of East Orange, New Jersey and Theodore William Stake of New York City. William Theodore Stake was born in 1861 in NY City(died in 1929??) but educated in London and then Canada. He was vice president in 1915 and VP, secretary & director in 1918 after Joseph Gales' expiring on June 3rd, 1916(born April 29th, 1847). Some concern, maybe S,D&G offered a scattergun with the tradename T.W. Stake......<<

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For the moment, I am just assembling notes in an effort to cobble together info already posted here; so bear with me.


Lep Pozdrav,

Raimey
rse

More notes......
>>What I can't make sense of is how Henry Modell factors into the equation. I don't even think the owners of the defunct Charles Daly info page even know the true story. Hungarian immigrant Morris Modell entered the U.S. of A. in the early 1880s and by 1889 had his own clothing cart, which he quickly turned into an actual business with a true address. He peddled items to servicemen on leave and actually is purported to have outfitted Roosevelt & his contingent in the Spanish-American war. During WWI Morris' son Henry(1 of 7) was drafted, and I've seen his draft card somewhere, and when he returned sometime between 1917 & 1919 he inherited the firm and looks to have incorporated it as Henry Modell Company, Inc. He became president in 1920. The concern seems strongly centered around clothing & surplus and not sporting arms, but it is possible. I think the sporting goods aspect was added when they acquired the Davega concern.

I don't think Charles Howard Daly was truly at the helm until after Joseph Gales death, and then he more than likely was just a director and secretary. It seems that Theodore W. Stake was still in control. But it is possible in the 1917-1919 period that Henry Modell injected cash into the concern but it appears he had his hands full in taking surplus WWI military items and turning them into useful civilian wares as the country was headed toward a depression. After Charles Howard Daly's demise in 1924, negotiations with the Davega concern added Schoverling, Daly & Gales under their umbrella resulting in March of 1927 in the name Knickerbocker, Schoverling, Daly & Gales, possibly less the Charles Daly trademark name which went to Sloan's Department stores a year later. I'm not sure if the Charles Daly trademark was separated from Schoverling, Daly & Gales prior to the purchase by Davega or not. In 1963 Henry Modell purchased the bankrupt Davega concern. It would seem that post 1928 that a sporting arm wearing the Charles Daly trademark name would have passed thru Sloan's Department stores.<<<


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Charles Howard in Yale Obit directory 1923 - 1924:













Joseph Gales expires in 1916 and Charles Howard Daly is President from 1917 till......

And there was a Charles Howard Daly, Junior



Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Is Joe Wood still with us?? Noticed his name whilst I was reading.......

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Ha! I’m looking anyways.

Raimey, Joe was by a couple days ago. But I don’t know more than that.

Ah.... I thought that would keep you away.....



Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Too, to keep things in perspective as to why all this effort, Ernst Lindner, H.A. Lindner's son & apparently only business heir, fell in fierce fighting with the Brits so H.A. Lindner more than likely shuttered his compagnie in June/July 1915, possibly a little later in an attempt to get things off his mind????? Therefore, it is more than likely necessary to start this timeline @ the unfortunate demise of Ernst Lindner:

06.07.1883 Suhl (Schleusingen-Pr.) to 16.06.1915 Bellewaarde......

Serbus,


Raimey
rse

To recap from the above:

Ernst Lindner expires on June 16th, 1915

Joseph Gales born April 29th, 1847 expires on June 3rd, 1916

Charles Howard Daly born November 6th, 1874 expires on November 17th, 1924.

Theodore William Stake born in 1861, expires on November 19th, 1929, unless there were 2 Theodore William Stakes born between 1861-1863 and died in 1929?

Next I guess we need to look @ the Charles Daly concern changing of hands....

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Not 100% absolute, but a few sources give that Schoverling, Daly & Gales / Charles Daly was defunct in 1919?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Too, it makes me cringe like fingernails on a blackboard, when I read that there is such a component as a Charles Daly AR upper......


Serbus,

Raimey
rse