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How else you gonna tighten a JABC or another clapped out tomato stake of a gun? Any other method is going to be cost prohibitive (ie making a new pin, welding up the hook and fitting, etc). If someone has one of these guns, and wants to hunt or shoot it (family heirloom, necessity, etc) I don’t see how the repair isn’t commensurate with the value of the gun. You have to be smart about it.
I’d hate for you guys to see how a gunsmith tightens up a forend. And ya’ll think there’s no place for a sledge hammer in gunmaking!😂
I doubt Jack ever meant for the “peening” repair to be done on a gun of any real monetary value.
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How else you gonna tighten a JABC or another clapped out tomato stake of a gun? Any other method is going to be cost prohibitive (ie making a new pin, welding up the hook and fitting, etc). If someone has one of these guns, and wants to hunt or shoot it (family heirloom, necessity, etc) I don’t see how the repair isn’t commensurate with the value of the gun. You have to be smart about it.
I’d hate for you guys to see how a gunsmith tightens up a forend. And ya’ll think there’s no place for a sledge hammer in gunmaking!😂
I doubt Jack ever meant for the “peening” repair to be done on a gun of any real monetary value. Maybe so, and I do not recall the gunshot was used, but I also do not recall him saying, "reserve this method for absolute clunkers".
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Jack said it was for people who couldn't afford a proper repair because the gun wasn't worth much but wanted to use there gun.give it a rest.
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Here's the video of Jack Rowe peening a British double that doesn't quite need a "rejoining" but barrels rattle when the gun is shaken with forend off. There is no qualifying by him or Porterfield that the method of hammering the rear hook is for inferior guns only. He further states that the method is the standard in the British Gun trade. No reason to believe otherwise. Gil https://vimeo.com/352928443
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Here's the video of Jack Rowe peening a British double that doesn't quite need a "rejoining" but barrels rattle when the gun is shaken with forend off. There is no qualifying by him or Porterfield that the method of hammering the rear hook is for inferior guns only. He further states that the method is the standard in the British Gun trade. No reason to believe otherwise. Gil https://vimeo.com/352928443Yup. That's the one I was thinking of as well. I was pretty surprised by it on a couple of accounts.
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Here's the video of Jack Rowe peening a British double that doesn't quite need a "rejoining" but barrels rattle when the gun is shaken with forend off. There is no qualifying by him or Porterfield that the method of hammering the rear hook is for inferior guns only. He further states that the method is the standard in the British Gun trade. No reason to believe otherwise. Gil https://vimeo.com/352928443The method he is using is peening the bite.Thats for up & down movement of the barrels. Not the hook or rear of the hook. That would be to bring the barrels back to the face. Totally different. The method he’s using is entirely acceptable to slightly tighten the bite. It’s exactly the way a forend is also tightened, by peening the bite. When someone talks about peening the hook, or giving the bottom lip of the hook a couple whacks… that’s when someone uses a punch to peen the sides of the hook to move material to set the barrels back on the face. Again….not ever the preferred method to put a gun back on the face but acceptable on guns commensurate with the price of the job. And BTW…he does mention at around the 10 min mark about doing a rejoint on a gun vs the peening method (it’s hard to understand but he does begin to talk about the cost).
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brentD gls did either of you talk to jack about this subject ?I think jack says something about the value of Larry's gun v making a pin
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Jimmy w how do you think Winchester tightens a forend iron do you think they go get a new one and refit it,?when things wear you either add material move material or use a new part .what do you think the cost is of refitting a new m21 forend is for parts and labor
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