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I acquired a WC Scott S-L crystal indicator, non ejector 12 gauge in an auction but it is missing the forearm. I've checked with some US sources but have not had any luck finding a replacement. Would anyone have a name for a possible source for a replacement?

The wood? The metal? The complete forend???

What type of crystal indicator action is it? AKA, What’s the year of manufacture?

serial number 41615 puts the year of manufacture as 1887. The gun is in excellent condition with no indication that anyone buggered anything inside but it's missing the entire forend. Ideally a complete forend would be great but the metal would be the more important and most difficult to fabricate. I'll try and post picture later this week if that would be more helpful.

Good luck

Walk around the wood there probably all over the place..have you checked back with the auction just in case it turned up.

The gun was sold as is with the forearm missing. It didn't just get lost. Nice gun and would be worth a lot more if it could be restored but that's part of the fun. Probably need to find some English gunsmiths that might be more likely to have access to an old parts gun or something sitting in a bin waiting to be rediscovered.

What Scott model is it ?

It's much more difficult than you think you might try uk internet sites mabey some of the auction house .Scotts used a lever operated forend not the more common Anson or deeley forend irons it might be possible to buy a forging from a supplier in England good luck

I have a Scott on my bench right now, that I refinished the bbls and made a hammer for. I can take some dimensions of the iron parts just in case you need to have them made

This is a wild and almost certainly ridiculous Hail Mary suggestion, but: A British outfit (like Holts Auctioneers, for example) may have a complete, clapped-out, off-face and rattly specimen on offer for a couple of hundred pounds. They also may have a junk drawer of sorts. If I were really interested in getting the thing usable again, and considering the cost of replicating a complete forend from whole cloth, I'd make a few enquires to some of the more voluminous British sellers, asking them if they'd let me pay for the shotgun but only ship me the forend or its iron. That'd possibly save you the bizzare and expensive ritual of importing the entire shotgun.

I had a Jaeger single shot rifle (Tip up) that was missing the forearm and had a friend that taught machining at the local high school using much more sophisticated equipment than you would expect. I also had another rifle, the same model as the one that was missing the forearm. My friend was able to photograph the good forearm and convert the photos to a program for the school's machining center he was able to machine a duplicate of the forearm iron, which my gunsmith friend was able to fit to the rifle together with a forearm latch I had and matching wood he had and built a new forearm. Using his magic, he matched the checkering and matched the border engraving on the rifle's action. It turned out well, but If I had to do it again (I can't, my machinist friend passed away) I would allow .005" extra to leave room for fitting (the example we used had been hand fit to the other rifle and was a little off center). If we had left a little extra material, the fit up would have been easier. This general procedure can work with the WC Scott, with the caveat that a forearm for a double would be much more complicated than the single shot rifle.
Mike

all good ideas and comments. I've thought of most of these and I'm trying to research UK contacts to see what I can come up with. I may try and find the seller to see what the back story is on the gun and if there is a chance of finding the missing piece. I'll post my progress as this goes forward.

If you actually post the model or pictures it would help you a lot .Scott used sever forend fasteners

If this is what your looking for i have one,(Guns International #1023700221). Mine is beat up enough that i will part it out or sell you the gun.
Accually, I only bought the gun to study the forend latch.

Correction, Guns International # 102370221

Sorry for the delay but I was away for the holiday's. I'll post a picture of the gun tomorrow. Let me check some of the possible sources and respond to some of the suggestions.

It's sounds like newton has what your looking for this is a difficult situation you are in bird in the hand is worth all the forend in the woods

It appears that Newtons post is a scam. I contacted the seller on Gunsinternational and that is not the gun listed.
The gun listed is in good condition and the price is firm. It is not a parts or study gun.
God, is everything on the internet a scam! I’ll post a few pics as soon as I figure out how to do it. Thanks to everyone who provided some information.

Hold up. I’m not sure Newton was saying that the GI gun was his…I took it as that the linked GI gun was similar to the gun he has. His gun is obviously clapped out and he’s been honest about that. He pm’d me about parting it out….seemed legit to me, albeit fairly complex logistically (to get to the gun).
If you contacted doublegun hq aka Russ Gould about the linked gun, your instincts are right. Run.

I tried to pm him he read my message but no reply I thought it might have been a misunderstanding not so sure now .

Sorry to All for the misunderstanding,

Le Fusis is correct, I do not own the GI gun and never said i did. I own a gun of the same or very similar to the description that Artco is parts hunting for. I was simply trying to put a face to the gun Artco had described as he had not yet posted pictures. Im pretty sure I have the near impossible forend that he needs.

Mc, I did not immediately respond to your PM because I do not know off hand what money or barter value the gun has. This takes time and it is the holidays. I would want to offer or at least know a fair value. So as I hpoe you can see there is no Scam here, please do not send BB people to find me.

Many of you here know me and can confirm I am not a scammer. I have offered similar hard to find parts to many on this forum and never asked for money or anything in return other than to put them to good use on your firearm

Dave Weber : Please delete my User name and information from this website. I draw the line at suspect violent threats from forum users.
Please understand i cannot subject myself or family to this type behavior,

Newton 1131;

When I read your reference to the gun on GI I read that you were referring to a gun listed by others not you. It was quite clear to me and I think that myself and LeFusil are part of the majority of readers of the post who understood that you were referencing a gun similar to yours that was for sale by another individual.

To my mind ArtOC at a minimum owes you an apology written as a response; and I hope that your reference to suspect violent threats is not in actual what you have experienced but only your concern of what might happen since it appears that ArtOC has proposed that you might be a scammer. I can understand your concern as we live in a day of "road rage" mindset---even at Christmas time.

Further to my way of thinking you should stay on this site.

Kindest Regards
Stephen Howell

I didn't threaten you I was just stating that some people have the ability fto figure out locations I pm you because if you are parting out that gun I wanted to buy some parts sorry it turned into this mark cooper

I contacted the seller and he told me the gun is in good condition and the price is firm. I didn't get the impression that there is a second gun that is a parts gun. If that's the case let me know and provide some context to the claim.