doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion German & Austrian Sporting Guns @ doublegunshop.com JW. O.WENZEL sxs I can`t identify

I have this GI bring back that has nice engraving and is marked JW. O. Wenzel. It appears there are nazi eagle proof marks. Any info appreciated.

Here is a link to Reddit with pictures: https://www.reddit.com/u/Alternative_Sort_937/s/PP6w7rMvao

Fusil,
Does the gun have the forearm with it? If not, that is a fairly common situation. The Germans were required to turn in their weapons, on penalty of death, for destruction.
Some people removed the forearms and telescopes in an effort of resistance. GIs often removed attractive guns from the piles as War Trophies, some were missing these parts. If the forearm is missing, it is possible to have it replaced. If you remove the barrels and post a clear photo of all the markings underneath them on the barrel flats, we can provide more information. From the marks that can be seen, the gun was proofed after the 1939 proof law came into effect.
Mike

Thanks for the info. It does have a forearm. I’ll post some better pictures of the forearm in a while.

Here’s a link to more photos of the proof marks.

https://www.reddit.com/u/Alternative_Sort_937/s/lJz6Q443Re

Fusil,
Can you show the barrel flats?
Mike

Here are the barrel flats

https://www.reddit.com/u/Alternative_Sort_937/s/cODCekE8tp

Fusil,
Your gun was made in Belgium and proofed as a 12ga 2-3/4" chambers. It was imported into Germany, likely for finishing, and reproofed under the 1939 proof law. The Reich Adler(eagle) with N underneath is the mark for definitive proof which also included a detailed inspection both before and after proof firing. I can see Reich Adlers on the barrels but can't make out the letters under them (likely N). There are others here that are better with the Belgian marks than I am. Likely one of them will come into the discussion.
Mike

The longarm was made & proofed in Liège in 1928.

Then for some reason in what looks to be July, 1946, Zella-Mehlis Büchsenmacher Otto Wenzel of Bierbachstraße 1 sent it thru the Z-M proof facility. From the looks of the head of the stock, someone must have been shooting a heavy load???

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I would hazard a guess it was made by:
Neumannn Frères

https://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20no/a%20neumann%20freres%20gb.htm


Serbus,

Raimey
rse