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Thanks Argo. I’ll send you some

I have a similar horn buttplate in my buttplate collection. It is resting in its oak and leather case, yes, just the buttplate.

More on Ed's Scott 10 bore: Observations:
-- Purdey Pat 1104 use number 4377. You can't date a gun by a Pat use number, at least consistently. However Pat 1104 expired on 01 May 1877 which puts at least a maximum date on it. (So Scott stamped Purdey's Patent on his guns presumably paying for it; wonder if Purdey paid Scott for using his spindle?)
-- WC Scott & Son Makers Patent Action. Not sure which Scott action this refers to but it's pretty ubiquitous on Scott guns.
-- There is one other patent stamped on the lump. "CSA? Nr 1 -28? Patent"? Can't make it out from the photos. Any hints. eeb can you see it?
-- Scott SN is 5220. It would date to 1874 per this chart:
https://doublegunshop.com/dgsnos5.htm

the rear lug features the adjustable lump and the patent that was granted to w & c scott to cover it.

best regards,

tom

I am not familiar with the Scott adjustable lump. The forend latch is awkward to use. I can understand why that feature did not make it in wider use.

Thanks. 16 February 1870, WM Scott Patent #452-70: adjustable sliding front lump

i have found a reference to the adjustable lump patent being issued in 1872....my copies of crudington & baker are packed away from my recent move, and i can't put my hands on them, or the whatley & crawford history of w & c scott....so i can't direct you to something more official.
i can tell you that the smaller screw is a keeper for the adjustment screw, which, with its eight indents, allows adjustment of the contact between the barrels and the standing breach....these guns can be brought back on face with a couple of turnscrews.

best regards,

tom

ps: i found a case you might consider - it's already monogramed for you....https://www.ebay.com/itm/305176353998?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230811123856%26meid%3D0b1361f9613f4d0a9818e833d55b46eb%26pid%3D101770%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D305176353998%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p4375194.c101770.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3Afcd996fc18a0a55f163a0c54ffffe668%7Cpageci%3A072d63b9-6307-11ee-8fac-82b6896dfdf1%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage

Somehow that Boss case looks too short for a 10 bore shotgun's barrels. Don't know what are the lengths of Ed's barrels but they likely are in the 32" range. Kevin McCormack here in N. Virginia could restore it.

32” barrels. Shot it today, it will break some targets. Fun stuff.

Gene,

Purdey and Scott entered into a reciprocal arrangement.

“Purdeys quickly realised the superiority of the Scott top lever allied to their bolt and made a reciprocal licensing agreement with Scotts; Purdey could use the Scott lever in conjunction with their bolt and Scotts could use the Purdey bolt along with their lever. In addition Purdeys could licence the dual patent to the London gunmakers and Scotts to Birmingham and the regions. Such licences were not cheap, Purdey charged the London gunmakers £2 per gun for the right to use the Purdey bolt and Scott top lever.”

Page 121, Donald Dallas, The British Sporting Gun and Rifle.