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Tamid #630897 05/31/23 02:50 PM
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No just the Dickson single trigger. I believe those were the years that they were made.


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Originally Posted by Owenjj3
About 2 weeks ago, Graham listed a beautiful 20ga round action (Not a Bar-in-wood) Dickson for 34,000 Sterling which sold immediately. Don't know what the buyer paid, but it was, by Graham's own admission, a very rare gun (he had seen 2 others, I think he stated). The round action Scottish gun is one of the world's greatest achievements in firearm design, IMHO. Due to manufacturing costs, it is not commercially feasible to produce in great numbers, but but that in no way diminishes the beautiful contribution of the Scots.

Would that be the one now listed on GunsInternational at $49,000?


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Tamid, Good eye, but the gun in Scotland was Kell engraved in a bold strapwork pattern, if I recall. The one at Country Pursuits is more modern (1992) and has traditional rose and scroll engraving. That's not to say the Kell example won't turn up at a US dealer sometime soon!


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JOHN DICKSON & SON
AN EARLY AND RARE SIDELEVER VARIANT 16-BORE 1880 PATENT 'SKELETON' ROUND-ACTION NON-EJECTOR, serial no. 3808,
[Linked Image from auctions.holtsauctioneers.com]
[Linked Image from auctions.holtsauctioneers.com]

There is rare and what almost has to be one of a kind. A round action, side lever is very rare. This is a gun from Holt's auction a few years back. Had a through crack at the wrist. Barrels replaced by David Mckay Brown in 1970. So even with a cracked wrist and replacement barrels it still is worth a ton. They made three 16 bore skeleton round actions, from research and this is the only known side lever I was told. Estimate was 3,000-5,000 pounds. Commissioned bids were 8,000 pounds before the floor could bid, I had to say not today, at 14,000 pounds, and it went for 21,000 pounds plus Holt's commissions and government interest. Then you had to deal with the stock. Most likely a restock job. And still somebody got a deal because I doubt that another one will ever come for sale, even if one more exists, and it might because the records can be incomplete.

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KyJon,

This article is pretty interesting on the Dickson 16 Dickson. It would be nice to know what the buyer did with this gun.

Ken

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I have seen another one just like it in the flesh.
Side lever and all.
I took it to pieces, and put it back together again.
And didn't break anything.....

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It's a little embarrassing, but I do have a Bar-in-Wood 16 ga. Dickson hammergun, and not an island lock as I had incorrectly stated. There were only 7 made, from 1878 (mine) until 1886. My apologies for posting the wrong information, I hadn't looked at my hammerguns since last summer.

Hope you can open this link.


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Even if there are three of the guns I mentioned I doubt I will ever get a chance at one again. But it would have been fun to own it. Perhaps it would be just as big a disappointment as the side opening O/U I had a decade or two ago. Lusted after it for 20 years, bought it and could not hit the side of a barn with it. If I wanted to end myself shooting it, I would need to reload several times. Down the road it went. It was totally cool looking and operated fine but just not for me.

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