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Thank you, Eightbore and others recognizing the favorable selling bid on the 2" gun. However there is a commission or buyer's premium which is not reflected in the for sale ad I posted. Still a deal I'm satisfied with. I figure the present lack of available ammo for the 2" guns kept others out of the bidding on this one.

I actually am looking forward to playing with the adjustable stock. Maybe I'll figure out my personal gun fit requirements. Unfortunately at 75 I'm afraid they are going to continue to change as I age...Geo

Oh there were bidders aplenty over on Poulin's. The one I bought went for quite a bit more and another with barrels I did not like went for a lot more than I thought is should. But that's an interesting gun and it would nice to know more about it.


Drew, I would consider those pressures to be marginally high for one of these. These are all Skimin and Wood barreled actions and there seems to be a consensus that under 8k is the place to be. Also, after talking to Tom Armbrust and the Tech at Precision, it is reasonable to suspect that pressures in a 2" gun could be substantially more than the test gun. There are loads well under 7k that can be built.

Why would the pessures be sustantially higher in the actual 2" gun than the test gun?

I had a long chat with Tom Armbrust about this. Test guns are all at least 2.75" chambers and maybe 3" for 12 gauge guns. There is no 2" chambered test gun (but there is a guy that will make one for ~$900). Thus, the load is jumping at least 3/4" to the forcing cones and maybe more. Tom said a 2.5" shell will lose about 300# of pressure jumping just that 1/4" in a 2.75" chamber. He did not know what a 2" loss would be, but 1000 lbs would not be an unreasonable guess and much more is possible. This might be worse for fiber wads, which is what I want to test.

In another long chat with the tech at Precision (Bret?), he has no idea at all what the effect might be. None. It never even occurred to him. But safe to way, it is likely that the data will be biased low, and that is dangerous, esp. if you are right on the cusp of a working load threshold (i.e., 8k psi).

I would not use some of the loads that Drew posted for this reason.

When RST was loading 2” loads, this was their loadings. Very little felt recoil in a 5 1/2 lb gun. Not sure when they will be able to load 2” shells.

12 2 Paper Ultra Lite 3/4 oz 1100 4800
12 2 Plastic Ultra Lite 3/4 oz 1100 4800
12 2 Paper Lite. 15/16 oz 1150 6100
12 2 Plastic Lite. 15/16 oz 1125 6100
12 2 Woodcock. 15/16 oz 1125 6200

Ken

Federal has them in 00 buck AND 7.5 and 8. Bulldog Firearms in Rio Rancho New Mexico has a bunch of them in the bird shot.

"[These are all Skimin and Wood barreled actions and ...."]BrentD, prof

My understanding was that Skimin & Wood were active in the '30s. This gun was built in 1956 according to the maker's letter. I don't have the gun in hand yet, but what is the tip off that the action is by S&W?...Geo

Many have "For 2 inch case only" on the rib or barrel in gold or silver block letter (kinda unattractive actually).

A 2” 12 gauge would make a lot of sense-if the 20 gauge hadn’t been invented.

Best,
Ted