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#630067 05/14/23 06:44 PM
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Has anyone heard of Leopold Bieder or Leopold Bieder Wien of Vienna?

I just bought a double by this maker from the latest Poulin auction:
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-...mpaign=lotwonlive&utm_content=178321

Looks good and I've always been happy with Poulin's descriptions, I'm just curious to learn more about the gun. A lot of the doubles in the Saturday auction came in below the listed minimum estimate.

If anyone else followed Saturdays's auction I'm curious if you think the bid prices were low or if possibly Poulin was optimistic about their estimates.


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I also bought a gun in the auction, I think. I watched quite a few sell and thought their estimates were pretty much spot on with a few exceptions in each direction. The gun that I bought went for just below midrange. Most of those that I saw go low were low-grade guns to begin with.


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It looks like a FN the engraving looks Belgian .I have a FN it's a really nice gun it has a boss type of intercepting sear machine made hand finished.looks like a great deal to me

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Originally Posted by mc
It looks like a FN the engraving looks Belgian .I have a FN it's a really nice gun it has a boss type of intercepting sear machine made hand finished.looks like a great deal to me

I would agree. Looks very Belgian.


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I concur, the 1930 Belgian proof marks are a strong clue.

Having said that the Belgians have always been capable of producing high quality guns and rifles.

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Picked up the gun today from my FFL.

The wood looks better than the pictures, the nice brown you would expect from a decent piece of wood, not that yellow tone, presumably from lighting, in the pictures.

Gun locks up nice and tight.

While I doubt it would have changed anything, what wasn't mentioned in the description, is that the sling swivel on the barrel is missing and that the sling swivel in the stock had been removed and the hole filled.


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You can have the barrel holes filled I have an FN that I restocked and I will fill the holes mine was mfg 1928 it's a great gun

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If you would post full size in focus images of every mark on the action and barrel flats, and just forward of the flats, we might be able to provide more information, and possibly ID the maker
Or send them to me as jpg attachments - NOT embedded in the email. drewhausemd@yahoo.com

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It's an FN

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Cornell Pubs has 1928 & 1930 Fabrique Nationale catalog repros in English, French & German text.
The gun might be illustrated
https://cornellpubs.com/product/3633/
https://cornellpubs.com/product/3632/

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