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F.W. Kessler 16ga. Please remind me if this 2 g Schulz Na(?) with 27g bl is a proof pressure or recommended load and what psi might this equal? Any other info would be appreciated.
Will definitely take lock plate off to view but the pin pattern looks different than English?
Found FWK catalog on germanhuntingguns that had same sidelock but only in much much nicer grade listed.
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Pin placement is definitely quite different than my Sauer.


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Maybe drp number will give us the answer?

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Yes, 2 grammes of Captain Eduard Schultze's semi-smokeless and 27 grammes of lead shot. That voluntary proof stamp used used up till 1912 and warranted an additional fee.

I read the DRP nummer as >>63231<< but that didn't fetch a protection period for anything in klasse 72 in Germany? Keßler didn't have a similar number.

Looks like EE for the tubeset knitter & that could be Emil Eckoldt or Ernst Eckoldt?

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Well....... F.W. Keßler did file for a patent protection period, Patentschrift Nr. 62231 Klasse 72 in 1891. So, that is where the mainspring is on the sideplate.

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There should be a FWK monogram on the standing breech.

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Same locks for the most part from Kessler catalog germanhuntingguns site, much nicer gun.
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The load marked on the side of this gun corresponds to Dr. Hause’s service pressure more so than a proof load of 1900? 30grains of Schultz and 1oz of shot. 2.5 dram load? So I would need to go with low pressure 7/8oz? Or say under 8k psi?

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That sounds correct but I will drag Drew to the basement & tell us for certain.

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