S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
Forums10
Topics38,527
Posts545,850
Members14,420
|
Most Online1,344 Apr 29th, 2024
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 |
Local dealer has a nice M1900 12 ga. 28" M&T-Damascus barrels- no damage, they ring whenh hung= good dims, why are the 1894 Remingtons listed in the Blue Book as being worth somewhat more, conditions being equal. I believe this is a K--dt, ext. nice older gun..RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,736 Likes: 493
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,736 Likes: 493 |
The 1900 was a simplified version of the 1894 with a snap on for-end. Most I have seen were A and B grades.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 |
Thanks- all I know about them is that the Edmund Osthaus shot quail with Remington double guns, just as Odgen Pleissner shot a Francotte..RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,494 Likes: 396
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,494 Likes: 396 |
Think Fox A grade and Fox Sterlingworth.
Ive had all four. The Remington's and the Foxes. Remington build quality is right up there with Parker. And it's a A&D boxlock design. Fox is an entirely different design and the build quality isn't quite as good.
Last edited by canvasback; 04/06/23 05:33 PM.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,494 Likes: 396
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,494 Likes: 396 |
42,000 Graded Remington 1894 made. Roughly 90,000 1900 made.
The reason you see mostly A and B grades is VERY Small numbers of the higher grades made. No hard records but the known E and D grades are both less than 100 including all gauges produced (10, 12 and 16). E grades number around 50 now and when I bought my first Remington, there were only about 33 known E grades.
I don't know the C grade numbers off the top of my head but it will be small as well.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,736 Likes: 493
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,736 Likes: 493 |
The 1894 had some of the nicest case colors of any American made double. I had a BE grade with some of the nicest colors on any gun I ever owned. The blues were so subtle but vibrant at the same time. Hard to describe. Kind off like oil and water colors mixed in the same painting. I am not a big fan of the stock cracking but it is an easy repair if caught soon enough. The 1900's I have seen have mostly been driven hard and put up wet. Different group of owners and they mostly seemed to have been used much harder. Quality they were a lesser well made gun but still a very solid gun. Price point is a fair description.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 |
The same dealer also had a Fox 12 A grade, with Krupp steel barrels, 28" DT, Ext. in the same good condition, which I bought--I thought I read that between the Fox (Phila mfg.) and the 18 pc. actioned Parkers, the Fox guns were somewhat simpler, and although they did not have rebounding hammers, their cocking system was fairly simple, and not as complicated as the 18 pc. Parker design. RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 |
Just wondering, if I buy this 12 Rem 1900 with 28" Damascus barrels, where can I buy factory black powder shot shells so that I can shoot it. Nice gun, well balanced, well cared for, the way all good guns should be..RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,894 Likes: 110
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,894 Likes: 110 |
From the introduction of the Remington Hammerless Double in the October 1894 Remington Arms Co. catalog They stated all their guns were suitable for nitro powders. While no one can tell you over the internet what ammunition may or may not be safe in a given gun, the heaviest smokeless powder 12-gauge loads our North American ammunition manufacturers offered during the time the Remington Hammerless Doubles were being built were actually a bit higher pressure than today's SAAMI specs.
Last edited by Researcher; 04/07/23 09:54 PM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,179 Likes: 1161
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,179 Likes: 1161 |
Fox locks are indeed very simple, which points towards the reason they so seldom are seen in gunsmith shops for repair. They contain only three moving parts per lock.
My only Remington double is a 1889 hammergun, and is exceptionally well made for the grade. Metal parts are excellently finished off, showing no tooling or file marks at all.
May God bless America and those who defend her.
|
|
|
|
|