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This gun is way up on the engraving ladder far above a winchester factory engraving,at least what I have seen

Thanks to those with positive feedback. Seems that there are still some that like to stir the turd. To get back on track. Here are some better and additional pictures.

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Pretty amazing. I like the little detail on the magazine tube. Made me chuckle for some reason. The grip cap is pretty nice too.

It looks like the engraving panels get pretty deep in some places. Is there any risk of structural strength? I don't know the innards of an M12, but those areas don't look especially vital to strength but still looks like a lot of missing metal - enough to even make a significant weight difference, perhaps.

Cool gun, for sure. If there is no engraving on the barrel, I'd be tempted to find another barrel for it to do away with the Cutts.

Have you tried to letter the gun?

So we have an unsigned master piece. To call that a pigeon grade is to inflate pigeon grades. I see the little pigeon grade icon, but that is several grades above a typical pigeon grade. Whomever owns it is a lucky fellow. Any chance you can trace it back by owners to origin? The grip initials does not ring a bell with me. Never liked those style of letters. Spend too much time figuring out what the order is and what some of the shapes are supposed to be which letters.

Beautiful. Love the grip cap. I. P. M.?

APM

Then we know the "Pickle was not factory installed- back in the WRA "hey day of the Perfect Repeater" if the gun was factory ordered with a Cutts Comp, the usual choke marking on the barrel breech area would be missing. Trying to figure out why, if it is a skeet gun in Pigeon Grade, and skeet choked, why then install a Cutts Comp..?? My M12 in 28 gauge, circa 1939- has a 26&3/4" barrel with solid rib and is marked WS-2. 2&7/8" chamber.. RWTF

Yes, I see that now. Thanks.

I now own the gun. The owner sold 3 Model 12’s, as well as a 42 all engraved with the cutts installed.I am trying to get some history as I did not buy it directly from the original owner.
Cutts were originally designed as a recoil reducer from what I understand.
You could order from Winchester in this exact configuration. I am guessing it did not leave the factory this way but like all manufactures I guess it was possible to send back later for upgrades.
I own a grade 6 21 that Pauline found records on that shows my field grade started life as a plain Jane and went back after the war to be upgraded.
Some of our guns were set up to be shot as the owners wanted.
The owner paid the money and got what he wanted. I plan to shoot it and see if there is a little magic still in this old gun.
I sure wish the pictures I posted would reflect just how nice the gun really is. A lot is lost due to the resolution.

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