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Thank you for the explanation. Now my question is, was that a special length receiver or did they only extend the magazine well to the rear and expand the clip loading slot to clear that long cartridge? I see nothing like the little notch taken out of the top of the receiver ring in going from an 8x57 to a 30-06. A magnificent rifle, by the way.

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re: Ferlach gunmaker AR

A peep into the new Ferlach book shows these possible suspects:
RABIČ / RABITSCH Andr., mentioned 1878
ROSENZOPF Alexander, born 1867, mentioned 1888, c. 1900
RUTAR / RUTTER Albert, advertisement 1919.

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buckstix,

A very cool rifle indeed!

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Originally Posted by HalfaDouble
... was that a special length receiver or did they only extend the magazine well to the rear and expand the clip loading slot to clear that long cartridge? I see nothing like the little notch taken out of the top of the receiver ring in going from an 8x57 to a 30-06. A magnificent rifle, by the way.
Hello HalfaDouble,Thanks for the reply.

The actions were all "standard" 98 Mauser actions of standard length with very little alteration. Most of the mag boxes also remained unaltered. The idea was to use cheap Military actions with minor alterations. This limited the loaded cartridge OL to 3.25". However, this required a very deep seating of the 400g bullet of the 11.2x72 cartridge. This created a problem back in the day when trying to achieve maximum velocity. With modern powders of today, that is no longer an issue and velocities of 2400 fps are possible.

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Thanks again. Now, let us see how it shoots;-)

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Hello HalfaDouble,

When I first obtained this rifle I searched Google and found all these references about the actions.

"..... The only 11.2 × 72 Schuler rifles in existence now are the August Schuler Model 34 rifles made before World War II . Due to the rifles being built on a cheap military issued standard Mauser 98 action , all the factory Ammunition was manufactured so that the 11.2 × 72 Schuler bullets were seated really abnormally deep into their cartridges , so that the Cartridges could be made to fit into the standard M98 magazines. This of course caused case capacity issues due to not enough powder being put into the cases.

It's seems to me that the case capacity issues caused by the deeply seated bullets in the factory 11.2mm ammo is what caused it to die out. ... but as l mentioned earlier , this was a necessity in order to make the cartridges fit the standard length cheap issued Mauser 98 actions on which these Model 34 Schulers were built.

Other calibers on the 98 standard length action were the .500 Jeffery, .458 in Mag, .425 Westley Richards the 11.2x72 Schuler

The overall loaded length of the 11.2x72 cartridge was such that it would fit in a standard 98 action without modification. It was later adopted by numerous European rifle manufacturers and was utilized in the German African protectorates as a big game cartridge. ....."

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Originally Posted by montenegrin
re: Ferlach gunmaker AR

A peep into the new Ferlach book shows these possible suspects:
RABIČ / RABITSCH Andr., mentioned 1878
ROSENZOPF Alexander, born 1867, mentioned 1888, c. 1900
RUTAR / RUTTER Albert, advertisement 1919.

Oh Jani..... A must have then??? My vote for the >>AR<< mechanic is Albert Rutar/Rutter.


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Jani:

Any meta-data associated with either of the 3 suspects like >>Gewehrlauffabrik, Zieherei und Bohrerei<<¿¿

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Thanks for the reply.

This goes well with my other Original 11.2x72 Schuler.

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