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Would be fun. But my biggest gripe is, you can't use your own dogs. I also don't need to ride in a buggy A nice breakfast is all I would need. And then the option to dine for supper.

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Au contraire about use of own dogs, at least on Dorchester. I was able to use Abby both times and our course was foot travel. The guide wanted to buy her. Gil

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The general reason for small bores when hunting wild birds is largely out of respect for the very limited resource that these birds represent. Killing as many as possible is about the absolute least of the objectives of any wild quail hunter, with the dogs and social graces of the experience being near the top.
Commercial hunts are a lot of fun and will be the closest that most quail hunters ever get to the pageantry of a true southern wild bird hunting experience, and that is certainly fine as absent such, so many of the great aspects of quail hunting, particularly the dogs and much habitat management, would be lost.
Of course a lighter load in a 12 gauge is equivalent to a small bore, and no doubt many private landowners would understand and appreciate such a gun and load, but the commercial spots are making every effort to recreate the wild bird experience for as many hunters as their business model requires. Their hunts are not regulated under the same seasons and there are no bag limits, but the effort to provide as near of a private plantation hunting experience as possible generally includes the preference for small bore shotguns, to often include no semi-autos.

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Growing up we had plenty of quail around. These days my old stomping grounds are barren. Lost to urban sprawl and a lack of habitat. Golf courses don't grow quail. Even with many birds we only shot the covey rise, never hunted the singles. We always quit fairly early in the afternoon so the the scattered birds could whistle up before dark to roost. It was all about the dogs and experience as you stated. My experience puts me firmly in the conservation camp. I still thinks it's a little over the top to bar 12 bores with loads that are the equivalent of small bores. Kind of the wrong execution of the right idea so to speak, but I understand where they are coming from. It limits the use of some fine old quail guns. Using the old guns is part of the charm for me.

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A buddy lets me hunt his property with my 2" 12 gauges that are by shell size limited to 7/8 oz. All guns must be sxs or o/u and usually smaller than 12. Gil

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Originally Posted by Southern Sport
Growing up we had plenty of quail around. These days my old stomping grounds are barren. Lost to urban sprawl and a lack of habitat. Golf courses don't grow quail. Even with many birds we only shot the covey rise, never hunted the singles. We always quit fairly early in the afternoon so the the scattered birds could whistle up before dark to roost. It was all about the dogs and experience as you stated. My experience puts me firmly in the conservation camp. I still thinks it's a little over the top to bar 12 bores with loads that are the equivalent of small bores. Kind of the wrong execution of the right idea so to speak, but I understand where they are coming from. It limits the use of some fine old quail guns. Using the old guns is part of the charm for me.


Yes, the concept of limiting a hunt to a SxS or O/U in small bores on quail preserves, upon closer examination, makes little sense, as in actuality, the birds are released, there is no limit, there is no deterrence or hesitancy to overkill for the benefit of spring nesting, and the birds put out will all pretty much be dead within a few days from either other hunters or predation. Some places will put out loads of birds and simply charge for the excess, on which there's some degree of profit margin. Others have self-declared daily limits, which I'm sure is a function of bird availability.
When it comes to using the 'proper" guns, as they say, "Image is everything." grin

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As a follow-up to the plantations on the list below, while I haven't hunted all of them, I have hunted quite a few and am familiar with most. A couple on the list that aren't available anymore include Covey Rise, that was owned by my sister-in-law's family (they sold it), and Southpoint, which is owned by the fellow that rents the row crop farming on my place.

Hunting Plantations and Lodges in SW Georgia

On this list, which is in the heart of Georgia's quail country, a few that I'd recommend would be Rio Piedra (owned by a retired guy that worked at Coca Cola), Riverview (owned by Cader C-o-x and being managed by the 3rd generation in their family), Southern Woods (has hosted the QF execs and run by Benji DeLoach; they do a good job), Southwind (haven't hunted there but has a very good reputation, Quail Country (was owned by Dr Paschal Brooks, a great guy from Blakely and now run by his family) and Wynfield (owned by the Leach family's trust; lots of great small private cabins/houses for accommodations and really well run).

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I miss quail hunting. It "went to pot" around here when the textile industry went away, and everyone planted pine tree orchards. I guess it doesn't make much difference now. I can't follow a bird dog anymore anyway. I still miss it though.
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I have hunted quail since I was about 9 years old and still prefer it to any other kind of game hunting. I love to eat quail. Like someone else mentioned, I always shot only the covey rise and maybe a couple of close ones who did not get the word to get the hell out of there! I had all the quail on my farm in NC that I could ever want to hunt. Now there is hardly a covey remaining. Lots of good memories of quail hunting as a kid and my mom fixing them for me. Days gone by. Oh well. I now have to pay to hunt, but what the heck, I am still shooting and get to eat a few quail as the reward. They have just gotten a lot more expensive!!


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First re Dorchester, I believe you can bring your own dogs, although they can't stay in the cabins as those are owned by individuals letting the Operation rent them. I used both a light 12 and a 20 last year and no one said a word, both were SxS and I do believe they limit use to O/U or SxS. Some of this is safety related. Put yourself in a guides shoes, seeing new guests every coupe days and not knowing how safe they are handing a gun.
Birds are released all through the season , not planted. We actually found a nest and quail eggs inn the field. They do use a jeep to get you out to the field but we walked the rest of the time.
The 12 vs 20 and smaller debate. About 15 years ago I was invited to hunt customers private plantation. The first year I brought a little J Dickson boxlock 12 and 7/8 oz loads. I was gently reprimanded. I tried to explain the light load etc and it largely fell on deaf ears. I think the perception is if you are using a 12, you are concerned about taking a lot of birds, whereas if you are using a small bore you understand it is NOT about the numbers of birds shot but rather the experience. The next time I was invited I brought a 20 O/U and in the end left it with the 2nd in command. Funny part of the story is, we hunted on horseback and as the only Yankee that had been allowed on the plantation, I was given the biggest damn horse you ever saw to ride. It was a chore getting on and off him all day.


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