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#624672 01/05/23 09:18 PM
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Hey folks, new here. I just picked up this shotgun for a price I couldn't pass up, was hoping someone might be able to tell me something about it.[img]https://ibb.co/Fs42cwx[/img][img]https://ibb.co/w0Bzr3G[/img][img]https://ibb.co/SPZhkC0[/img][img]https://ibb.co/BcBGtSC[/img][img]https://ibb.co/Y7WQJkX[/img][img]https://ibb.co/rscWqc0[/img][img]https://ibb.co/R0dpyWp[/img]

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Beautiful gun, super Nice engraving with a royal monogram. Hopefully someone will recognize monogram for you here. Don’t think I would have walked away from that one at any reasonable price.

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A very nice gun indeed! Unfortunately, this is not a royal crown, but that of a baron with the initials FS.

Emil Martin also was building guns with knob triggers similar to those of Johann Reeb. It was Martin, who claimed being the designer of some guns and rifles with Knopfabzug for emperor Kaiser Wilhelm II who was handicapped with a crippled left arm and had to shoot with one hand only. The whole story:

http://www.hunting-heritage.com/blog/index.php/2016/05/23/push-not-pull-a-rare-ou-of-e-martin-bonn/

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Thank you both. Very interesting, so that would be a lower class of nobility, probably no way to figure out who it actually belonged to then? Any estimate as to date of manufacture? From reading another thread on here, I'm presuming this is pre WWI. Are the proof marks from the Suhl proofhouse? And is the gun proofed for nitro or just black powder?

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The >>Clockhand<< indicators remind me of the Early Sauers, but I do not see any Sauer process marks.


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The tubes were soured from the formidable „Schilling-Schmiede“(Gegründet: 1862 - ( „Grüberhammer“ dating back to 2 years before the U.S. of A. Independence(1774))with Stephan(Sylvestr.??) Schilling doing the heavy lifting on the tubeset effort.

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Looks like Emil Martin sourced the longarm „in the white“ or as a >>Gesteck<< from J.J.(Johann Jakob-Gegründet: 1857) Reeb. Wolfgang, you live there aren't you related to either of the makers?

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Lovely, just lovely adornment.

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thread for the DRGM 17913 Sauer „Clockhand“ indicators:

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=446272

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If you pull the locks, images of the complicated side might provide some clues.

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